http://www.adireaudio.com/File...d.pdf


now you tell me THEY are wrong

 

lol definetely not reading 6 pages of tech talk

 

Anyone that thinks size is that makes a sub "sloppy" has a lot to learn.

 

i had a pair of eclipce alluminum woofers for a while, they sounded really good. they actually had very good sound quality.

 

When I was in high school, the salesman at our Audio King used to tell people that all the time. It drove me nuts!

 

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uhhh what size were they? im lost

 

15" ....... sorry

 

ohhh ok,

sooo... they didn't sound 'sloppy'?

 

not at all, i had a soundstream refrence 500 running each sub.

 

to anyone who thinks large subs are sloppy, listen to the B&W ASW 850 which is a 15" driver or the wilson XS which is a dual 18" driver. they will blow you away.

 

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while i DO agree with you

i want to point oput that the SAME MODEL SUB thAT SOUNDS 'TIGHT' IN TEN INCH OR TWELVE INCH MODELS will SOUND JUST AS GOOD IN 15 OR 18 INCH MODEL


for example a 12 inch comp vr sounds good, so does a 15 or 18

a 12 inch jl audio w3 sounds goopd, the 18 sounds even better!

 

There was a thread from over a year ago where we discussed transient response of large subs(15"+). Dan Wiggins registered and made a couple of posts in the thread. I will post a link if I can find it.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=405664

 

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WOW i remember that thread

can't believe that guy from adire actually logged on to post about the same thing i linked in this topic

im famous!

 

People should actually try out their 12 inch Shiva subs. The Shiva was originally a home-theater sub, but made to work with car audio. It's much cheaper than most of the popular brands out, but some other audiophile boards recommend it.

 

The shiva loves airspace though. It is not subcompact friendly imo. Very good bang for the buck though.

 

the shiva doesnt need a large enclosure unless you are using it in a home theater application. the Shiva is just AMAZING. i have loved every second that i have owned it. i built the box for it and everything, simply pounds, and is hands down the most pleasant sounding 12" i have ever heard. i couldnt imagine it in a vented box, it would hurt so bad to listen to!!

 

If i had the money and weren't paranoid as hell, i'd love to have the Koda system from Adire. Heard it's awesome as well.

 

Without reading it I can tell you that as long as the correct motor is used to the correct cone you wont end up with a "slower" woofer.

 

yeah, and if i had some money, i would get a nice little 15" Brahma setup. christ, that would be the end of me