I have a Sir Accord 1999 and i am itching to make it pull above 160hps. but i have been told it is now worth it. This car has tiptronic.


Help Please i want to make this a real bad *** street car

 

alot of people are dying to have a sir i nthe states... post some pics of the ride

 

SiR is already at 177hp, its SOHC Non Vtec 11:1 compression motor....are u sure this is what u have??? did u import it from japan, cause thats where theyre from??? or did u buy it from some ricer who put a SiR emblem on a 6th gen EX???

if u do in fact have a legit SiR, then id suggest swapping in DOHC Vtec motors of the 6th gen SiR-T....200~hp, but still kinda lacks in the tq w/ 140~ft/lbs

u could awalays turbo charge it, but with that high of a compression, ur not gonna make big power unless u throw in lower compression pistons, a thicker headgasket, and forged internals.........being that F20B engines were never available in the US, theres little aftermarket support for them over here, but im only assuming your from teh US

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fw190bvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SiR is already at 177hp, its SOHC Non Vtec 11:1 compression motor....are u sure this is what u have??? did u import it from japan, cause thats where theyre from??? or did u buy it from some ricer who put a SiR emblem on a 6th gen EX???

if u do in fact have a legit SiR, then id suggest swapping in DOHC Vtec motors of the 6th gen SiR-T....200~hp, but still kinda lacks in the tq w/ 140~ft/lbs

u could awalays turbo charge it, but with that high of a compression, ur not gonna make big power unless u throw in lower compression pistons, a thicker headgasket, and forged internals.........being that F20B engines were never available in the US, theres little aftermarket support for them over here, but im only assuming your from teh US</TD></TR></TABLE>

He's probably in canda

 

I am from Jamaica , and are u sure that it is 177 hp , dosent feel like it.
It a Dohc Vetc FB20 4 cylinder automatic:tiptronic.

Now is it worth it. to spend the money, here are the pics

http://www.geocities.com/howieh2/engine_bay.jpg


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http://www.geocities.com/howieh2/at_home.jpg



Modified by howieh2 at 6:18 PM 6/5/2004

 

the links arent working

 

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Modified by howieh2 at 6:18 PM 6/5/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

lmao....cuz its a slushbox...shh!!! j/k.....anyway try some NAWZ that will make it a bad azz street car. btw fix the links

 

I create a page with the image this should fix the link errors

here is the page link
http://www.geocities.com/howieh2/SiR.html

By the way what is NAWZ!!

 

ill be...where did you get that? did you have it shipped to jamaca or did they sell those at stealerships then?(if there are car dealerships in jamaca)...just wondering...btw nice car now what are you asking about it again?

 

There are car dealerships in jamaica , Honda is a big thing down here.

The dealers import the cars from japan.

 

Yeah i am really passionate about my car and i want to give it a treat.

A Make Over, and i am starting with making it faster and better performance.
But i need help becuase i am justing learning about cars.

The first make over is speed/performace.
Then a visual make over
and then an interior make over.\

So i am asking for you guys help, are you with me.

 

how about swapping in a 5 spd and turbo that beast

 

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good response. Oregon owNs j00


&lt;-------- Bend, OR

 

The F20B DOHC VTEC SiR auto/tiptronics have 180hp from the factory...

the auto version is detuned a bit so the sportshift tranny doesn't die...which I hear is a major problem with those trannies...

The Manual version of the F20B has 197hp...


http://www.accordinglydone.com...ies=F

 

man dont worry about giving it bling. it looks sexy the way it is. a manny would be nice though...but if you dont want to spend the mula for a conversion, just turbo that sucker!

 

if thats an f20b DOHC Vtec, than technically, shouldnt that be badged as an SiR-T????

DEFIANANTLY do a 5spd conversion first....thatll totally change the way the car performs

 

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The auto was the SiR and the manual was the SiR-T...

 

Your correct the SiR is the auto and the SiR-T is the manual.

Ok so change it to a 5spd, can that be done with my kind of transimmison , dont forget that the SiR is dual i.e auto and tiptronic. I dont know how this will all go down. Also what will be the cost.

And if it can be done, i am wondering if any mechanic out here has ever done it and can do the job right.

Sound scray.

 

get the tranny off a junker SiR-T, and take it to someone who knows what their doin.....im not sure how complicated it would be, but i know for H and F series, its not too bad at all, u just eneed to know what ur doing, and have all the right tools

 

If the car was sitting for awhile (and it might've been on it's way over from Japan) and sitting also at the dealership...you might consider running some

"Fuel Injection Cleaner". This stuff is usually availible at auto-parts stores..and should've cost more than $4-6 USD. I like STP
-this will clear up your fuel system a bit if you have alot of kilometers - you might feel more power

 

yes it can be a worthy street car but either turbo it or do a manual conversion before you start setting up races or whatever it is you do down there

 

Ok, I checked out the tranny change , it can be done, i found a couple people who can do it , its cost about $45,000 to $50,000 jm dollars maybe more. So i am now going to source the parts and taking all you guys advice. Re: the Turbo idea, i have heard will limit the life of your engine, so whats the deal with that.

 

ud need to lower the compression before u turbo.......how much money is that in US $$??

 

$738.64 to $820.70

Anyway thats a sweet car, and the 5-speed swap doesn't sound too expensive (if that includes labor)! Turbo'ing your car, when tuned properly, doesn't lower the life of your engine. I would look into building the engine up a little bit, and use lower compression pistons. Then you will be able to turbo it safely with no reliabilty issues.

 

ok, so if you got a good deal then do the manny swap...then turbo it later....ultimateley most turbocharged engines end up living shorter lives...part of that has to do with the fact its so hard not to get on it and hard to stay out of boost....but if you tune it correctly you should have no problems...however due to the fact that chronic is legal down there i would not let a jamacan tune my turbo motor. just my feelings.