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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Its been brought to my attention that companies that make a 'knock off' version of something is hated by most. Rota seems to be taking the most heat for knocking off rims. I too am not a Rota fan to much because....well they don't have a single authentic design and all are a knock off. Not only that they happen to go after the popular 'JDM' style rims and are so easily accepted among honda tuners.

I want your opinions

Let me clarify...I don't want a disscussion on which rims are better. I want your opinion and thought process for buying knockoffs. That's all.
Do you care if its authentic??


HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES:
MUGENS MF-10

KONIGS GREENLIGHT

ADR's MODELFLITE 5

ROTA's C-10

TENZO R PYSHCO


ANOTHER EXAMPLE:




WHEN IS IT TOO MUCH?? DOES ANYBODY CARE THAT THERE'S A KNOCK OFF OUT THERE FOR EVERY AUTHENTIC PART?? It bothers me because knock off parts are so easily accepted...

Modified by MidoriHB at 2:04 PM 6/2/2004


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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Thats just super!

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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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*puts flame suit on*
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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My opinion is, "who gives a ****?". I frankly couldn't care less if someone has a knockoff or a genuine JDM part on their car. In fact, the whole faggy little JDM craze is a big knockoff on its own. Why do you worry so much about it? You get what you want/like & let others do the same.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Who cares? I surely don't.

Show me why the "True JDM" wheels are of higher quality and then maybe I'll give a ****.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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a wise man once told me " only a fool will buy quality that doesn't show on a dyno "
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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Knockoff ownz and are great!
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidoriHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its been brought to my attention that companies that make a 'knock off' version of something is hated by most. Rota seems to be taking the most heat for knocking off rims. I too am not a Rota fan to much because....well they don't have a single authentic design and all are a knock off. Not only that they happen to go after the popular 'JDM' style rims and are so easily accepted among honda tuners.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They dont just make wheels for Honda's, they are found on many cars now.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But if you look deeper into whats going on with this car culture as a whole, quality is something that people don't really pay attention to. They just want to make there car look good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats alot of crap. There are thousands of sets of Rota's in circulation with minimal cases of damage/failure. Rota is a great company to work with, the stand behind their product and replace it if the product was at fault. Please explain to me why I should go spend $500 per wheel when I can get a set for the same price that look almost identical.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wheather its going to be the Spoon carbon fiber lip or a JDMshit.com 'replica' carbon fiber lip. Its going on with almost everything that we've all grown to love. It seems that there's a replica for every authentic product out there and its <U>SO EASILY ACCEPTED</U>.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here is a question, what difference does it make if you have a Spoon lip or a replica? Whats that? None? You're right!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want your opinions. Where has the quality gone?? Why is it that all of these 'replica' rims or 'knock-offs' so easily accepted?? Has it actually come down to getting the part at a cheaper price wheather its real or not for everyone?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is nothing fake about Rota wheels, they may be copies, but they are very solid wheels with thousands of hours of track time logged all over the country. They do what more expensive wheels do, only cheaper. The "fake" "replica" "knockoffs" do the job just as well, if not better. Its all about Value/$ ratio. Much like $/HP is important too, unless you own a honda

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now I realise that people just want to get it done. That people would rather sacrifice brand name for how much money is going to be left in thier wallets after the buy. And its all good....Right?? Well I think its just sad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You dont seem to get it. There is no justification for buying the wheels that are 5x as much $. Name brand doesnt mean ****. I can guarantee you DC Sports has sold 10,000x more headers than Hytech. But the Hytech unit embarasses the DC Sports in terms of function.

Mugen wheels, Spoon wheels, you are buying a name.


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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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all rims roll the same....unless they're cf
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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i could really care less...i like rota, but i'm kinda gettin sick of seeing slips and **** everywhere...mostly they are so popular just cuz they are cheap and light
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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Ok I hear all of you guys saying who cares.

But if you saw the real deal on a car....I know for a fact that there's some of you out there that would gawk at that car because they spent the money and time to get the authentic product.

RIGHT?
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidoriHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I hear all of you guys saying who cares.

But if you saw the real deal on a car....I know for a fact that there's some of you out there that would gawk at that car because they spent the money and time to get the authentic product.

RIGHT?</TD></TR></TABLE>


No, I would wonder why they bought wheels that are worth more than the value of the car in some cases or a very large percentage, makes no sense to me.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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this is 920978734509881 thread that is going to turn into a real VS knockoff all out war.....................

may the honda-tech gods help us all
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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I wonder than...what is your definition of a quality car??
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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I think it's stupid that rota, tenzo, etc. can't make their OWN design.

The good thing about the "jdm" wheels being so expensive was, since they weren't affordable to everyone, you wouldn't see them on every other honda on the planet.

I would buy a wheel I like, but at the same time, wouldn't want to see it ALL OVER THE PLACE.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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A car that is built up using only authentic parts who took a guy 3 years to get like that is just as good as someone who would rather buy the knockoffs? That makes no sense to me.

My definition of a quality car is someone who pays attention to detail when building the car. The parts that he/she chooses says alot about themselves. If a person builds a car with the most outragously expensive parts...IMO the deserve to get props on thier car over the person who builds it with knock off parts. NOT be called a dumbass for buying the REAL deal.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by darkcvc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is 920978734509881 thread that is going to turn into a real VS knockoff all out war.....................

may the honda-tech gods help us all </TD></TR></TABLE>

NO there isn't. There are 45846456465456 threads out there where people post thier ride and someone who could care less turns it into an arguement about fake and real cause of what they got on thier car.

What I'm trying to get at is...why settle for less?? IF you had the money would you get the real deal or would you still get the knock offs?
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra707 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it's stupid that rota, tenzo, etc. can't make their OWN design.

The good thing about the "jdm" wheels being so expensive was, since they weren't affordable to everyone, you wouldn't see them on every other honda on the planet.

I would buy a wheel I like, but at the same time, wouldn't want to see it ALL OVER THE PLACE. </TD></TR></TABLE>

surprisingly that is a good point, being original coincides with spending that moo-lah, so when you wanna be different, you gotta shell out that cash.........

but if you dont really care about being different the rotas and tenzos and konigs are for you...............

i rock some konigs for now, but will still not be getting expensive wheels, i curb them all cuz i am not careful enough, so i wont shell out loads of money just for shoes
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Yeah if your a madman for true JDM why not go with the real things,but for the hundreds of people who like the JDM look but dont want to spend money they could of turbo'd their b/d series with whats wrong with knockoffs? I'm going Rota for sure,great wheels,great designs,light weight,and great value for money!

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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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If APC made the mugen body kits do you think anyone would buy them? ..hell no, cuz there ugly as hell, there just "JDM"
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LoCoRaCeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah if your a madman for true JDM why not go with the real things,but for the hundreds of people who like the JDM look but dont want to spend money they could of turbo'd their b/d series with whats wrong with knockoffs? I'm going Rota for sure,great wheels,great designs,light weight,and great value for money!

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exactly.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidoriHB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

NO there isn't. There are 45846456465456 threads out there where people post thier ride and someone who could care less turns it into an arguement about fake and real cause of what they got on thier car.

What I'm trying to get at is...why settle for less?? IF you had the money would you get the real deal or would you still get the knock offs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

because if the rims look damn good, who CARES what name is says on it? if you're trying to be unique, buy ugly rims...i guarantee you no one else will have them. if you buy nice rims you think are unique, chances are someone else will see them and
1. buy a set just like yours
2. steal your set
so you'll be unique cuz you'll be riding on ROTORS instead of ROTAs.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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blah blah blah blah blah
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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thanks for adding this useless comment.

Listen guys...its not about rims. That was just the example. Its about knockoffs in general. What is your opinion about knockoff and copies or authentic parts. Does it bother anyone that there's a knock off for every authentic part out there??
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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nope. EVERYTHING is based off knock-offs. the entire U.S. automotive market (ford, gm, chyrsler) is based off knock-offs. so why not.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by troublecodes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope. EVERYTHING is based off knock-offs. the entire U.S. automotive market (ford, gm, chyrsler) is based off knock-offs. so why not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How so??
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