NOT JUST THE SPEED RADARS??

http://www.wheelsjamaica.com/w...tPost

is it possible??

 

I'm not sure of one in the US that has that capability yet, but I know you can use some scanner thing made by Uniden or someone like that... except I think it starts with a B (Maybe Bear.... damn I wish I could remember lol). Anyhow, most police now use a relay system, and how it functions is the radio on the police officer themselves doesnt' actually communicate with the comm tower. What happens is the personal radio unit actually communicates with the car, and the car's system then communicates with the comm tower. This is all controlled by a computerized system (digital), so even with these police scanners you still need the digital receiver add-on (which is pretty damn expensive for the whole setup). The advantage of this though is it picks up when a cop is around by the signal being relayed between the car and the hand-held unit. The only problem is it can pick this up from as far away as 2 or 3 miles.

Can they add this type of detection to a radar detector? Yes, but it would most likely make the unit grow a decent amount in size, and also increase the cost by quite a bit. Will it always work as planned? No, some police "groups" don't use the relay systems, etc.

Hope that information helped you out

 

thanks man! so they havent made one like that? and 2 or 3 miles??

in jamaica it'd go off all the time

 

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You're thinking of the Uniden Beartracker (I beleive it's model 8 now). It's a portable scanner that's illegal in all states. I looked into it for a while, but just figured it's not worth it. The best radar detector is your eyes and some common sense.

 

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You're thinking of the Uniden Beartracker (I beleive it's model 8 now). It's a portable scanner that's illegal in all states. I looked into it for a while, but just figured it's not worth it. The best radar detector is your eyes and some common sense.</TD></TR></TABLE>

seems pretty nice if the cops are using the radio.. u say its illegal in all the states, but why is sold all around the internet? ive found it for ~200 w/ free shipping

 

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u say its illegal in all the states, but why is sold all around the internet?

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Those Phazer radar jammer things (which don't work, by the way) are illegal as well, but they can be bought. The Uniden unit does have legal applications for emergency personel, and is legal for them or anyone who has a license from the FCC to have a mobile scanner in a vehicle. It's not just a police 'alarm'. It's a full fledged mobile scanner with the added feature of alarming with a piggyback radio in the area.

EDIT: Here is the site that I had gotten the info from, and I was mistaken by saying the scanner is illegal in all states: http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanlaws/ The place that I wanted to use it most (NY) was illegal, and those troopers don't look kindly on that sort of thing. It was 3 or 4 years ago that I looked into it, and somehow my mind slipped and thought it was illegal everywhere. Sorry about that.

The thing is,the law is like a radar detector law. They may be legal where you are, but I don't want to get pulled over while using one. Just keep your eyes open for cops ahead and behind you; and don't do anything stupid. My eyes have saved me more times than my radar detector has.





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Actually the phazer radar jammer is only illegal in states that radar detectors are illegal in. I have had one now for about 1 year and can say it works. My best friend is a state trooper and we tested it out on a deserted road with me doing about 100mph. His radar could not an accurate reading on my speed.
The company also will pay your ticket if you get one while using it.

 

radar detectors are pretty much useless these days. most cops dont leave their radar guns on. now they turn them on to clock you and by that time its too late

who cares if tehy pay for your ticket. its not he money im worried about. its your driving record that counts. its not like they get them fixed for you

 

The phazer is not a radar detector its a radar and lazer jammer, it is on all the time and works. A radar gun can't get an accurate reading off the car it is in, it use some electrical field or something(kinda like a stealth bomber uses) to deflect the radar and lazer signals, sending them back with false info. I have been using this for a year now and have had no tickets despite driving about 50 miles on the highway everyday. There are speed traps all along the stretch of highway I run to work on, I see them everyday sitting in the median and never worry about it.

 

obviously you are not exceeding the speed limit too much or they would just look at you tell, then pull you over anyway

 

If it's on all the time, then they could tell by the screwy readings that you were using a jammer.

And it would suck to be caught with one, seeing as you are transmitting on the Police's designated radar bands, the FCC (? i think?) would go ape at you, and you would probably loose your car. !! Not to mention that the police4 would take a very dim view of it.

And it's not an electrical field as such (ie not like a force field), it merely transmits radar energy.

 

Once again, as I mentioned in my earlier post, this is only illegal in states that outlaw radar detectors. Florida is not one of those states, which is where I live. The stretch of highway I use everyday, the speed limit is 50, I will honestly say I never do 50 going to work, more like 65-70. I have passed right by state troopers and county cops doing this speed and have not had a ticket to date. Police radars are not always accurate and its not like its the same guy trying to hit me up everyday, so when they look at the radar, they just chock it up to malfunction, and I fly right by.

 

not true. Radar jammers are illegal in all states via the FCC. It can fall under the interfering with a legal communications (IE&gt; the radar gun transmitting and receiving it's signals). The fines, if they really want to be a-holes, can run as high as something stupid like $500,000. Doubt you'll hit that with a radar jammer though. Laser jammers are so far legal, because laser is controlled by the food and drug administration so far, and they don't have any rules against them.

As a side note, that bear tracker thingy I think comes standard only with the analog receiver, IIRC. The digital add-on "card" can be purchases seperately. I might be incorrect on that though

 

That law gets a little sticky. While typical radar jammers that interfere with a specific radio frequency are illegal. There are debates as to wether or not laser jammers are illegal and wether or not they fall under FCC regulations. This is simillar to the debate as to wether the emergency traffic light changers fall under this regulation as well they use IR. Take it to court without an attorney and your screwed.

 

There seems to be a little bit of missinformation in this thread. Read this: http://www.radartest.com/artic...=8501 Rocky Mountain Research is the company that sells the old phazer, spirit and eclipse (as well as others with different names) jammers that have been around. From that site:

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...historically, effective jammers have been nigh impossible to find. There are good reasons for this. For one, they're blatantly illegal in all fifty states, since jamming police radar requires broadcasting a powerful, modulated signal. And precious few engineers are sharp enough to outwit the sophisticated digital signal processing (DSP) universally employed by modern radar. Not to mention, jammers are fiendishly expensive to construct...

...at the time we owned a serious radar jammer. It weighed four pounds and had a control module the size of a Tom Clancy first-edition hardcover novel. Its antenna was so large it wouldn't fit on the dash of an average passenger car. And it worked only against X- and K-band radar. Adding Ka band would have required adding another antenna and even more bulk. In comparison, we could drop the Spirit into a shirt pocket with room to spare.

"This is a passive jammer," Churchman (from RMR) explained, "and it works against X-, K- and Ka-band radars. It doesn't transmit. An active jammer transmits a signal back at the police radar. That's illegal. What the Spirit does is take the incoming radar signal, mix some 'white noise' with it, and reflect it back to the radar." And the radar, confused, will simply remain blank, he assured us.

This statement is somewhat at odds with the entire body of scientific literature, not to mention our own experience. A one-square-inch antenna, no matter how efficient, is simply incapable of reflecting enough signal back to a powerful police radar to jam it. For that matter, we've tested $5,000 active jammers that pumped out 500 milliwatts of microwave energy--50 times the power transmitted by a modern radar--that failed entirely to jam anything. Yet here Churchman was offering legal, effective jamming for a lousy $90 to $195, depending upon the model.

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Then, from the mouth of RMR owner himself:


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...Churchman volunteered a most amazing analysis of the consumer's ability to tell a working radar jammer from a bogus box. "You could ship an empty box with a weight in the bottom and only get 22 to 24 percent back," he confided to us.
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I have tested one of these units myself. The electronics lab at the college I went to had a lot of police radar test equipment. We used to use some of it to rate the performance of our formula SAE car. My friend had a Phazer from RMR, and swore up and down it worked. We put it on the test bench, fired up the unit, and nothing. Put it in his car, did some drive bys, and didn't phase the radar gun one bit. He sold it on eBay the next day.

Laser jammers, on the other hand, are perfectly legal. To 'jam' laser, you don't have to send a signal. They redirect the laser beam to prevent it from returning to the source. Legal, and they work. But they're expensive; escorts is around $500 or so, and bel's unit is about the same.

You can check with dr. internet (http://www.google.com) to do some research if you don't like my source of info, and you'll find the same thing written in other places. I just knew this article was out there, so I didn't have to do much searching.

 

 

So there is no radar jamer that works?

 

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No, not that I've seen. Like the article said, there used to be a few HUGE ones that put out TONS of power that worked for X and K band (since they're narrower range), but I've never even heard of one that works on Ka.

As far as a 'passive' jammer, or any passive counter measures (plate reflectors, etc.) no, they plain old just don't work. It's mostly a snake oil scam. Most people don't have the means to check if they work or not, so sellers can get away with it.

I've gone by plenty of cops on the side of the road that weren't using radar; so mostly when people blow by them with a jammer, and they don't get picked up, they come to the conclusion that the jammers are god's gift to speeders. In reality, if the cop was using radar, they'd be toast.

 

I saw a tv program a while back that tested one of those passive jammers. When they took it apart, they discovered it was just a flourecent light bulb with a cover over it. People were paying $100 for a light bulb.

 

Valentine 1 still the top radar detector?

 

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I LOVE MINE! I am, however disapointed at its lack of ka radar detection.
Radartest.com say it did poorly on the Ka test. I used to have the bell 8500 but sold it for the V1. I am in the process of contacting Valentine about this ka ****??
Yes Im a bit pissed about

 

no what i asked about does exist in the topic i linked a guy posted the model #

its a cobra and i have to get one!

 

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Should have gotten the Escort Passport 8500. Not to get in a pissing contest about radar detectors, but the only detector tests that put the V1 over the 8500 is Car & Driver; which is highly suspect, because the editors in the mag have made mention on occasion that they all carry V1's in their cars (coincidence?). C & D also gave a higher weight in testing to the X and K bands (like you say, lousy Ka detection) to make it come out on top. Where I drive, it's all about the Ka, and the 8500 has never let me down.

 

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Ya, I hate pissing contests! Although that in not true. Consumer Reports gave the V1 a 97% and the next closest was the escort 8500 at a wapping 77% or something real close to that. Then was the BELL 980 or what ever (what I used used to have) I cant even rember the modle # anymore, get a 75% or so.

I have used all 3, only owned 2 though, and I would still pick the V1 over them all! The diractionals and boggy counter are the best and the signal meter is VERRY accurate! Radartest.com gave it a poor score mostly because of stupid crap that I dont care about. They complain about haveing one button and **** but that is all you need! I owned the Bell 98? And it has mor frigging options then I will ever need or want for that mater. They also gave no extra points to the V1 for the diractionals or anything. The V1 is the best IMO, and I belive that it has got better ka detection now.

My V1 has never let me down eather

 

Just get this one people......... http://www.circuitcity.com/det...5&m=0