Went down to the local Car Detailer today, owner was talking about some video maken the rounds on the net of a VR6 and a R racing on the freeway.

Did a search, did not find it.. just thought I ask someone here.

Thanks in advance.

 

everyone has something to say about someone else.....domestic's talk ****....import's talk ****...it' all the same.....everyone should get along

 

OBDI VR6's sure aren't slow. A guy I know today dyno'd his at 164 whp with just a chip and 2 1/4 inch catback and he was running 89 octane gas and pinging on the top end

 

All i have to say is my buddy has a type r and I love them, but I went with german engineering instead and with a simple chip mod my 1.8t outruns his type r with ease, and with my kw coilovers and neuspeed sways it doesn't get outhandled by the R but respect to the R If you dought it's looks.........




[Modified by duduvr6, 5:42 AM 11/11/2001]

 

shouldnt ur name be dudu1.8t

lol

my boy has a crazy 1.8t with a ko4...although a t3/t4 would be better!

 

i live around ur area..havent seen ur car around..r u one of thosed00dbuds that chills at Coffee TIme @ Pine Valley/7

 

The VW thing are BIG in Scandinavia.The are Golf everywhere and the short time i worked as a VW/Audi technician i drived a lot of different Versions from a 1 gen GTI to a VR6 i also tried a 1,8T but was a bit disapointed, the car has a really nice low/mid band power but loses it at high rpm.
I have also raced a 1,8T a while ago.
It was when i drove to work,about halfway a yellow car approches fast in my mirror, i decided to floor it and see if he could hang on,he did up to 150km but then he could not keep up any more.When i reached work he came up to the parking loot and telled me, he had a service sheduled that day and asked what engine i had in my car since he could not keep up.

I guess a chipped 1,8T are more difficult to kill,how much hp do they get 180 or 210?

 

The 1.8turbo engine comes with 150hp, 180hp, 210hp, 220hp and in the new Audi S3 it has 225hp.

This engine is used in VW, Audi, Skoda and Seat.

Very strong low end and midrange power but very underpowerd in the high rpm. Very smal turbo. The engine can rev up to 6500, but it is better when you shift at 5500. My buddy has an Audi S3 with 265hp to the crank and he is slower then me. The S3 is very heavy. 1450kg ~ 3200lbs and it is 4 wheel drive. I have 240hp to the crank. When you chip those engines you will have about 30hp or more easily.

 

And what's the fun in that?

VW's

Water cooled VW's

 

I did not intend this to be VW vs R... I just wanted to see the fricken video.

I like VW's.. owned two before the R.. totally different cars.

 

Yeah the 1.8T blows up top. I drove a VR6 a few weeks back, it was really nice.

 

The torque of the VR6 is pretty nice. I raced a modded one a LONG time ago (when I first got my R) and lost. He caught me at the top of 3rd and won the race by about a fender.

He won't race me now that my car is broken in and I know how to launch it.


[Modified by Yellow Dragon, 2:28 PM 11/11/2001]

 

I'm sharing a video of a ITR smoking a VR6 of morpheus right now.
Just search for vr6

 

Sorry but a 1.8t with a k03 chipped will not outrun an ITR.

With a K04 maybe, but the exhuast manifold to the turbo is way to small for any gains in HP most of the gains are Tq figures.

And if you do 1bar on the K03 without manifold porting than your gonna hurt something.

 

HAHAHAHAHA no hp gains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! buddy just remember that re-search is KEY, with stock ko3 turbo, no exhaust or intake the apr chip along with upsolute and giac and other with boost the 2002 1.8 t's figures from stock 180hp - 174 tourque to 215hp - and 250 torque.

now let's do the math 215 - 180 = 35 hp.....hm anyone see a gain here? CAUSE I DO!!!!

oh for refrence "ghetto racer" http://www.goapr.com

LATER

 

That's right duduvr6, there's no biased on that website.

Oh BTW don't take things so literally, in fact you proved part of my point. if in fact you get the numbers claimed on the "APR" website than the HP gains are nominal compared to TQ.

Also by doing research on the mentioned website the dynoplot for the Stage one HP read under 200 and tq is under 250, so don't know where you get the numbers from.



BTW - if you read my sig, i owned a 1.8t, so i know a thing or two on this engine.

Have a nice day




[Modified by Ghetto Racing, 5:57 PM 11/11/2001]

 

I was giving to the crank #'s here are some dyno #'s of a guys 1.8t chipped car on the vwvortex forum dynoed.


APR Race Gas Profile with Sunoco GT Plus 104-Octane
185.2 HP @ 5750 RPM
202.8 lb-ft TORQUE @ 4500 RPM

APR Pump Gas Profile
174.4 HP @ 5750 ROM
189.4 lb-ft TORQUE @ 4500 RPM

Zero to 60 MPH on Race Program
5.77 seconds !

 

so

 

so with one chip a 1.8 t will rape a type r, now i love type r's but the reason im using a type r as an example is the fast you claimed that a chiped 1.8 t doesnt accomplish impressive gains and im proving you wrong.

to make a long story short a stock 1.8 t does 0-100 aprrox in 7.2 secs, a chipped one does it in approx 5.9-6.1, I call that a gain, THE END

 

Buddy give your head a shake.

 

anyone else notice that this guys post an awful lot about how great his vw is on a type-r tech forum, i don't really see the point to this, maybe he should ask in kill stories or something..... just my .02 cents

 

Forget super cars, I need to buy a VW 1.8t! Those are some pretty quick times.

 

I owna type r too that's why im in this forum, only reason im talking about vw's is because of the un educated comment by "ghetto racer"

 

u shoulda just referenced your previous post about vr6 vs itr that u made earlier

 

I don't know why you get so excited by saying a chipped 1.8T is faster than ITR

1) Chipped 1.8T = modified. IF chipped 1.8 T is faster, that's nothing special, it is MOD. If not, then too bad that it is still that slow after mod. I don't think compare mod to unmod is that fair in the first place, especially it is not that clear chipped 1.8T or ITR is faster. Remember, torque and hp is not everything. Many other factors play some important roles. Weight of the car is one thing. And most importantly, GEARING is very important too. I am no VW expert so I know nothing about the 1.8T gearing. But gearing on ITR is wonderful. It has short gears and place the car in power band all time. Also, gear ratio is very important too. Gears are actually a multiplier of torque. For ex, car A has gear ratio 10 and torque 100, car B has gear ratio 5 and torque 100. Car A can have 1000 torque on the ground while car B only has 500 torque on the ground, given no power loss and condition the same. Just looking at the torque numbers FROM THE ENGINE and say one car is faster than the other is just non-sense.

2) 0-60 5.9-6.1? You must be kidding me. That looks like WRX numbers, NOT CHIPPED 1.8T. While the AWD wrx can only achieve high 5's to low 6's, how dare you say the FWD chipped 1.8 T can do the same while the everything else approx. the same? Basic physics tells us more the torque, more the weight need to press the wheel on the ground in order to get traction. When luanching, the weight of the car is transferred to the rear wheels. With so much torque in a FWD setting, you only get TONS of wheel spin (which increase your 0-60 time). The reason AWD can take off so much quicker is that it transfer torque to all 4 wheels and can get more traction.

3) ITR are never meant to drag anyway. Put it on the track and see how the heavy weight of 1.8T do in the corners.

4) This is OT but I don't know why a CLAIIMED ITR owner will register a user name "duduvr6"?

Peace


[Modified by ITR #01-1203, 10:46 PM 11/11/2001]