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Old May 29, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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Default Almost failed CA dyno emissions test with mild (CARB approved) modifications

I came very close to failing the hydrocarbon part of California's dyno test. At 15mph the measured HC level (in PPM) was 59 - another 2PPM and I would have been above the 60PPM max at this speed. The 25mph level was 15, well under the 43 maximum at this level. My CO and NO numbers were well under the limits.

My car is a 2000 with 28k miles and with a Comptech intake, header (both CARB approved) and a Comptech exhaust. Stock cat, timing and everything else.

I ran the car on the highway first to get it up to temperature.

Any ideas why I came so close to failing? What were other people's numbers?
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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were you using 91 octane gas?
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcruz.pissed.off.spec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were you using 91 octane gas? </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the highest grade available in CA!
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Old May 29, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zygspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's the highest grade available in CA! </TD></TR></TABLE>

And a bargain at $2.50 a gallon.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Could bolt on parts like I/H/E affect emissions? Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, they just improve airflow and improving airflow will not worsen emissions.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Damn you Cali guys get shafted!

Here in GA, 93 octane is 2.23 a gallon .
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Old May 29, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TypeRWanter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn you Cali guys get shafted!

Here in GA, 93 octane is 2.23 a gallon .</TD></TR></TABLE>

u suck.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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you guys all suck ...$5.00/gal in Japan!

Change your oil, oil filter and air filter, before doing an emissions test. It **might** help.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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it was close but all it matters is you passed, so no worries bra.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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that wasn't my point. my point is, to pass cali smog, you need to run 87 octane or at least 89. the lower the octane, the more complete the burn=cleaner emissions.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcruz.pissed.off.spec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that wasn't my point. my point is, to pass cali smog, you need to run 87 octane or at least 89. the lower the octane, the more complete the burn=cleaner emissions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But wouldnt that hurt the ITR? because you are suppose to pump 91 or higher
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Old May 29, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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empty tank, put $3 of 87 gas in it and take your test. as soon as you are done, put 91 in it with octane boost.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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stupid me,

but why 91 WITH octane boost? is the octane boost supposed to cancel out the 87 that has already been put through the system?

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Old May 30, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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I'm sure you wouldn't use all of that 87 octane in the fuel tank so for me its just piece of mind.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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How much oil does your ITR burn?

That'll spike HCs through the roof. It'll burn the gas, but the oil just turns to soot and makes emissions sniffers unhappy.

You've got a while to worry about it again, but a cleaned combustion chamber (direct spray solvent) and fresh spark plugs do the best for that problem. Of course... oil soot residue is a bigger problem than emissions... but rebuilds should be done for more than passing smog, eh?

Although I don't condone purposeful pollution... the things that bring me joy are often fueled by gasoline. God Bless Honda.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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I doubt the ITR can even run down the block and not puke all over the place on 87.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR 98-0652 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much oil does your ITR burn?

That'll spike HCs through the roof. It'll burn the gas, but the oil just turns to soot and makes emissions sniffers unhappy.
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I'm running Mobil 1 so burn the usual quart every 3k miles.

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Might be doing it again in a month or so because I am going to sell my car.

I'll try new plugs and an oil change etc. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by norice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Might be doing it again in a month or so because I am going to sell my car.

I'll try new plugs and an oil change etc. Thanks for the feedback.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you sell the car within 90 days of passing your smog test you will not have to get the car retested.

Austin
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Old May 30, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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i didn't pass with my...

comptech icebox/JDM 4-1/CARB cat/T1R
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Old May 30, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Is it possible to even pass with an aftermarket catylitic converter? I think you can only pass the sniffer with a stock cat.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Did you fail the sniffer test or the visual inspection? The JDM 4-1 will fail the visual.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by norice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you fail the sniffer test or the visual inspection? The JDM 4-1 will fail the visual.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wont fail with a heatshield.

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Old May 30, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by norice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Did you fail the sniffer test or the visual inspection? The JDM 4-1 will fail the visual.</TD></TR></TABLE>

failed the sniffer, passed the visual.

the JDM4-1 had a heat shield over it.

i believe, most aftermarket cats will NOT pass CARB. kinda sucks with the current car cause it runs rich like a pig.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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I, too, passed the visual with my JDM ITR header. Passed the visual with my Carsound, too, but failed the test. Then I put in an OEM cat and passed.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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i was lead to believe that carsound cat's would pass smog (I have the smsp 2.5" carsound). Which is why I refrained from getting a test pipe. sigh..


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