Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

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Old May 29, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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I just installed my AC and had it professionally vacced and filled.

everything rund as it should, BUT the compressor clutch does not run.

I unplugged the relay for the comp and tested two of the wires (of the 4) and with the AC switch on, two have power and the two below do not. I jumped the power to the lowwer one and lo and behold, cold air.

so is it a safe assumption that the relay is poo?

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Old May 30, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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ok, i replaced the relay with generic 30 amp relay and all is well except....the car wants to stall and die when I run the AC at stops and idle sometimes.

revving a bit helps. could my flywheel be too light?

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Old May 30, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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F.I.C.D.!
CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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If there is no power on the opposite side of the AC relay double check everything.. you have a problem thats why the ECU is not turning on the compressor. Also un-do the fuse part you did.. its not safe because the ECU thinks the AC compressor is off.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Im having the same problem anyone else has any ideas
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Old May 31, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emong3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">F.I.C.D.!
CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT INSTALLED.</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats that?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BatuKing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If there is no power on the opposite side of the AC relay double check everything.. you have a problem thats why the ECU is not turning on the compressor. Also un-do the fuse part you did.. its not safe because the ECU thinks the AC compressor is off.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so all 4 pins should have power? if the ecu thinks the compressor is off is that why it stalls? the ecu is not compensating for the extra load?

does anyone have a diagram?
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Old May 31, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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No..

Do you have another relay for the fan? if so swap them and see what happens
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Old May 31, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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yah i have the other relay, but from what the Honda parts guy told me there were a few different relays. so i dont think these are the same?
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Old May 31, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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what color is the AC switch wire in the dash?
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Old May 31, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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IF you have an EG the relay for the fan and the AC are the same.. just swap them and see what happens.

color of the wire depends if you had a R12 unit or a R134A system to begin with.
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Old May 31, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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r12 in mine. 93 and lower
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Old May 31, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo E 604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what color is the AC switch wire in the dash?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the one that goes to the ECU is black yellow
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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ok im at my wit end. everty thing seems to check out, except for the DIODE. the blk/yel wire. how do i test the diode? is there supposed to be resiance? i ran in ohm meter on it and it showed an open circut.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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Diode should flow power in one direction.. so if you have an DVOM it should have a test for Diode use it and see if it works... one direction you will get a reading the other you will not.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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I'm giving up man. I'll just live with my McGuyvered relay.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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dont.. if you do then your system will freeze over then the pressures will be higher and the compressor will eventually blow over and might destroy it
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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fixed

okay this thread is closed. Please refer to this one:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=883466


Modified by Turbo E 604 at 8:40 PM 6/2/2004
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