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Old May 29, 2004 | 02:56 AM
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Qualifying round 1 begins in a few minutes. Any predictions?

Anyone watching live?
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:17 AM
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go JB!
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:39 AM
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Sato's lap just shows you how much quicker the last guys out get. It's looking good for the second half of qualifying!
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:51 AM
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Pre-qualifying top 10 results:

Sato!!!
M. Schumacher
R. Schumacher
Coulthard*
Button
Raikkonen
Barrichello
Alonso
Montoya
Da Matta


*stopped on course after finishing (possible engine trouble)

on to qualifying...Go TS!! go JB!!

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Old May 29, 2004 | 04:28 AM
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Sato by over half a second makes it even better. Getting down to the last group in qualifying now.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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<U>Qualifying Results:</U>

M. Schumacher -Ferarri
Sato!! -BAR Honda
Trulli -Renault
Raikkonen -McLaren
Button -BAR Honda
Alonso -Renault
Barrichello -Ferarri
Montoya -Williams BMW
R. Schumacher -Williams BMW
Panis -Toyota
Da Matta -Toyota
Webber -Jaguar
Klien -Jaguar
Heildfeld - Jordan Ford
Pantano - Jordan Ford
Massa -Sauber
Bruni - Minardi
Baumgartner - Minardi
Coulthard -McLaren (no time -engine problems)
Fisichella -Sauber (no time -engine change)
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Old May 29, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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Can't wait to see if Honda can outdrag Ferrari in race to first corner.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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fawking sato. all week i've been debating on whether or not to pick him up in my fantasy f1 league or keep the money and get a better engine after the race. shoulda went with my gut.

great qualifying result for sato/bar/honda
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Old May 29, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Question:

Is Sauber using a old Ferarri engine this year?? F-1 commentator said that they are, and he kept calling them the "blue Ferrari" team?
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Old May 29, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question:

Is Sauber using a old Ferarri engine this year?? F-1 commentator said that they are, and he kept calling them the "blue Ferrari" team? </TD></TR></TABLE>

no. they are using the exact same spec engine as ferrari.

would have been too costly to make last year's engine good for the entire weekend and also this year's engine. so sauber have benifitted from that rule. although their race performances certinaly have not.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanceh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no. they are using the exact same spec engine as ferrari.

would have been too costly to make last year's engine good for the entire weekend and also this year's engine. so sauber have benifitted from that rule. although their race performances certinaly have not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Goes to show how important the chassis is compared to the engine...
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Old May 29, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Goes to show how important the chassis is compared to the engine... </TD></TR></TABLE>

and the drivers......
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Old May 29, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Question:

Is Sauber using a old Ferarri engine this year?? F-1 commentator said that they are, and he kept calling them the "blue Ferrari" team? </TD></TR></TABLE>

The chassis they are using is ever so slightly different from last years Ferrari Chassis hence some of the name calling. I have a complete write up in an early 04 issue of F1 magazine that compares and discusses the similarities and differences between the "03 Ferrari chassis and the "04 Sauber chassis. Almost identical but still within the rules, is what i remember being written. As well that issue gave a great rundown on all of the cars, teams, drivers and all of the courses. It's almost like Cigar Afficiondo for F1 enthusiasts with beautiful pics and some dry British humor tossed in the mix.

I'll go brush up on the article and add some more here later.

I'll catch the beginning of the race tomorrow but will be going to work by 8:30 and will rewatch everything tomorrow night over a monster steak and some Foster's
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Old May 29, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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anton,

are you talking about F1 Magazine or F1 Racing? i have every issue of F1 Racing from december '01 and it is the best magazine on the market. i do remember a article about the similarities between the current sauber and F2003GA.

the other magazine, F1 Magazine, was crap. iirc it changed hands last year and was actually being published by formula 1 but i think it is no longer.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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i'm like 30km from nurburgring this weekend and i totally missed it, fawk.

its is expensive as hell though, i guess its hockenheim for me
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Old May 29, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gary201147 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm like 30km from nurburgring this weekend and i totally missed it, fawk.

its is expensive as hell though, i guess its hockenheim for me</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah. people in europe flip out when they hear how cheap the USGP is.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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The US GP track is totally gay. The should use either Elkhart Lake or Laguna Seca..those would be hella nice tracks for these cars to run on.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanceh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anton,

are you talking about F1 Magazine or F1 Racing? i have every issue of F1 Racing from december '01 and it is the best magazine on the market. i do remember a article about the similarities between the current sauber and F2003GA.

the other magazine, F1 Magazine, was crap. iirc it changed hands last year and was actually being published by formula 1 but i think it is no longer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lance, yeah F1 Racing. I picked it up on a whim since I started following F1 a bit closer last season and thought the issue I found had some great introductory info on everything for me to absorb. Yes, must have been the comparo that you are mentioning.

You'd probably be alot better at explaining the comparison and articles then.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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I missed the live qualifying this morning but will catch the rebroadcast @ 1AM, and then the race live starting @ 7:30 several hours later.

Should be an even better race than last week's.
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Old May 29, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Sounds like i gotta start taping and reimburse you Ed
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:05 AM
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Finals start in less than in hour.

<U>Here are my predictions:</U>

1. M. Schumacher
2. Truli
3. Barrichello
4. Sato
5. Button
6. Alonso
7. Montoya
8. R. Schumacher


<U>Comments:</U>

-Although I'd like to put Sato on the podium, I don't think he's quite there yet. I think he's an excellent starter, but he has a stamina problem and can't hold off others very well. Hope I'm wrong though.

-Button will charge ahead, but I don't it'll be enough to be in the top 4.

-Montoya complained about setting problems with his car. I don't see that going away this race.

-Barrichello and M.Schumacher will be in their usual forms. But I think Truli has a slight edge over Barrichello and their finish will be close. It will be quite a challenge for Barrichello to make up places to give Ferrari a 1-2 finish.

-Alonso's car isn't quite there this time around.

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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:02 AM
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A few minutes and we'll see who makes it to the first corner in front.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:06 AM
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WOW !!! Did you see that start !!!!! ( I am giving no details as to not spoil it for others)
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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:33 AM
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Nice start! What's up with RS though??...Damn he's a having a bad year!
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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:42 AM
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Ralf and Montoya never grow up!
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