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I replaced my AEM CAI with a V2, hmmm...

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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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Default I replaced my AEM CAI with a V2, hmmm...

I've got a UKDM y0 1.6VTI (B16A2) and I used to have a AEM CAI. I replaced that with a AEM V2 and it feels slower to me?

The car feels like theres less power top end, it doesn't feel as lively as it did. Surely this isn't right?

The only thing I can think of is the pipe is wider and therefore not as effecient but this thing has been tested and dynoe'd by AEM and meant to be the best CAI. I noticed that the insulater pipe on the outside is hollow and open ended so the air blows INTO the space aswell as up the intake pipe, weird? Right?

Anyone?
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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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did you try resetting your ecu ?
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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Reckon that'll do it?

Fair does, just remove the fuse, let idel till warm, take for a progressive drive. Right?
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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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idle till warm
turn off car
pull ecu fuse for 3 minutes
put fuse back in
start car
let idle for 3 minutes
turn car off
bada bing
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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Wheres the bada bing fuse?


Only jokin, cheers for that!
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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saw a comparo recently where the v2 made slightly less power than the original. someone have the link? i believe the weapon*r short ram made the most.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/1_intakes.shtml

Read the little section on the AEM challenge and you will get some more insight on how AEM makes their power claims.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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ahh god, what a waste of money.. you could have gotten a camshaft set with a little savings
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Old May 28, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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I read the article, doesn't make AEM look bad and their testing method sounds right to me.

The Dyno's show AEM V2 fairing pretty well if not in the top 2 overall... and an excellent midrange too.

You CANNOT get cams for the price of an AEM V2 in the UK. I got my V2 for £150/$250 and cams would be nearer £400$700 then you need the retainers etc etc.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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Just an analogy, a lot of people move their VTEC settings with a stock cam and they feel like they got more power. Reason is because there is a big drop off in power then a big kick when the VTEC comes in. The V2 has a more level power band, while most intakes especially short rams are real peaky. So maybe it feels like there's less kick but you have better power overall.

Also note that the power that you feel is torque, not horsepower. Torque is what pushes you back in your seat.

Replacing your CAI with a V2 is a waste of money even according to the tech's at AEM.

My second theory is that maybe you were running slightly lean in the first place, now you've added more air and you're running even more lean. I don't know what your setup is or the condition of your injectors...
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Old May 28, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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i think you should have kept ya v1 ed. even claims that aem give dont justify upgradin to v2 especially if you already have v1.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EdLeake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I read the article, doesn't make AEM look bad and their testing method sounds right to me.

The Dyno's show AEM V2 fairing pretty well if not in the top 2 overall... and an excellent midrange too.

You CANNOT get cams for the price of an AEM V2 in the UK. I got my V2 for £150/$250 and cams would be nearer £400$700 then you need the retainers etc etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He said with some saving, I got a set of skunk2 stageII for $400. Just gotta know where to look.(like on H-T )
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Old May 28, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Wasted your money man. Sorry but true.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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Hold on guys, I sold my AEM CAI for the SAME money I paid for a BRAND NEW V2. I got a good deal.

Would that still be classed as a waste or is the V2 better, I think the V2 is better overall?

And to answer about my car, its low mileage 25k so the injectors should be fine. Only got a full tanabe SMR, de-cat, 68mm TB, TB spacer and EK9 header.

Got my APEXI VAFC to fit, so hopefully that will fill in the weak spots.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:27 AM
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ed, id sell it and go for hondata
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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Hondata over the VAFC?

The TB spacer is a Outlaw Engineering one.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:38 AM
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yeh, your buildin your car up and will get to the point where you'll want somethin like unichip, hondata etc to get best out out of your mods so may as well get it now.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:40 AM
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Problem is Hondata is very new to the UK, no real tuners.

Dastek (unichip) which is half the price are very very good if you go to the right tuner so that will be my first choice.

The VAFC was simply to fill the gap and tune the current mods to a better level, obviously it has many limitations but its better then nothing. I also got it VERY cheap too (£100).
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Old May 30, 2004 | 03:57 AM
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how far are you from cpl racing ed ? they do hondata. may be worth you importin from u.s and gettin someone to fit/tune
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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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Erm, whereabouts are they located?
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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:03 AM
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kent
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Old May 30, 2004 | 06:24 AM
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Reset the ECU.

It appears to be better now, bit more punch in VTEC like before. Subtle change, but the ECU reset appears to actually work.
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