what kind of power should my R motor put out?
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well i bought a 99 jdm itr longblock and well long story short the head was damaged, so here is my current setup, i was wondering what you ppl with a setup similar to mine are hitting
99 b18 type r shortblock 23,000 miles
92 b17 head, with all itr internals and 5 angle valve job, shaved 10 thousands
ctr intake manifold done by portflow
dc 4-1 header, aem shortram, and 2.5 mandrel exhaust to magnaflow muffler
phiz chipped p28 with jdm spec r chip ( should i get a different spec chip, i want a redline and decent gas mileage)
i should be dynoing soon and im looking for some numbers that other ppl hit
99 b18 type r shortblock 23,000 miles
92 b17 head, with all itr internals and 5 angle valve job, shaved 10 thousands
ctr intake manifold done by portflow
dc 4-1 header, aem shortram, and 2.5 mandrel exhaust to magnaflow muffler
phiz chipped p28 with jdm spec r chip ( should i get a different spec chip, i want a redline and decent gas mileage)
i should be dynoing soon and im looking for some numbers that other ppl hit
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Is that at the wheel or the crank
Mattj
Is that at the wheel or the crank
Mattj
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i guess this is the wrong forum then huh guys, guess ill go ask another forum w/o a bunch of asses.......
i asked a serious question and must be because my car isnt a real ARRGG im not good enough for a decent answer
i asked a serious question and must be because my car isnt a real ARRGG im not good enough for a decent answer
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if you didn't realize, your question is basically unanswerable. There are way too many variables in the tuning game to be able to accurately predict what your car will make. Either that, or the ITR forum is just a bunch of asses, take your pic hoss.
This kinda question is one of those things where they give u a jar with marbles in them and they ask you to guess how many marbles in the jar, lol. How the hell are we suppose to know how many marbles are in the jar?
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thats why i was asking with other ppl with similar setups are getting out of there motors, i have no idea what kind of power this should put out, im not asking for an exact answer because thats impossible, im just asking for ppl with similar setups to post the numbers they got so i can compare mine when im dynoed
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">99 b18 type r shortblock 23,000 miles
92 b17 head, with all itr internals and 5 angle valve job, shaved 10 thousands
ctr intake manifold done by portflow
dc 4-1 header, aem shortram, and 2.5 mandrel exhaust to magnaflow muffler
phiz chipped p28 with jdm spec r chip ( should i get a different spec chip, i want a redline and decent gas mileage)
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Hmmm.
Hmmmm.
OK.
You have a nonprogrammable chip that's designed for an OEM ITR.
It sounds like you've got some decent head work, but it's from a B17, not a red head.
A good header as far as the cheap ones go, and let's assume the rest of the exhaust is well put together.
You're in Pennsylvania. The humidity will be high this time of year, and let's assume you're not in Buffalo, but more toward the Philly side of the state.
Let's assume it's not raining when you go to the dyno.
Let's assume it's a Dynojet, made within the past couple of years.
I'm gonna guess <FONT COLOR="red">180</FONT>.
It really is a guess, though, based on variables that we're guessing at.
It's not a bad idea to get a baseline just so you can see it on paper and tell people something about your car, but you're not going to get the most out of it until you're actually tuning it.
What everybody was trying to tell you is that every dyno is different, every day is different, and the dyno chart will really only be useful to <u>you</u> for your purposes.
The real test is does it perform well and does it meet your expectations?
92 b17 head, with all itr internals and 5 angle valve job, shaved 10 thousands
ctr intake manifold done by portflow
dc 4-1 header, aem shortram, and 2.5 mandrel exhaust to magnaflow muffler
phiz chipped p28 with jdm spec r chip ( should i get a different spec chip, i want a redline and decent gas mileage)
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Hmmm.
Hmmmm.
OK.
You have a nonprogrammable chip that's designed for an OEM ITR.
It sounds like you've got some decent head work, but it's from a B17, not a red head.
A good header as far as the cheap ones go, and let's assume the rest of the exhaust is well put together.
You're in Pennsylvania. The humidity will be high this time of year, and let's assume you're not in Buffalo, but more toward the Philly side of the state.
Let's assume it's not raining when you go to the dyno.
Let's assume it's a Dynojet, made within the past couple of years.
I'm gonna guess <FONT COLOR="red">180</FONT>.
It really is a guess, though, based on variables that we're guessing at.

It's not a bad idea to get a baseline just so you can see it on paper and tell people something about your car, but you're not going to get the most out of it until you're actually tuning it.
What everybody was trying to tell you is that every dyno is different, every day is different, and the dyno chart will really only be useful to <u>you</u> for your purposes.
The real test is does it perform well and does it meet your expectations?
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Hmmm.
Hmmmm.
OK.
You have a nonprogrammable chip that's designed for an OEM ITR.
It sounds like you've got some decent head work, but it's from a B17, not a red head.
A good header as far as the cheap ones go, and let's assume the rest of the exhaust is well put together.
You're in Pennsylvania. The humidity will be high this time of year, and let's assume you're not in Buffalo, but more toward the Philly side of the state.
Let's assume it's not raining when you go to the dyno.
Let's assume it's a Dynojet, made within the past couple of years.
I'm gonna guess <FONT COLOR="red">180</FONT>.
It really is a guess, though, based on variables that we're guessing at.
It's not a bad idea to get a baseline just so you can see it on paper and tell people something about your car, but you're not going to get the most out of it until you're actually tuning it.
What everybody was trying to tell you is that every dyno is different, every day is different, and the dyno chart will really only be useful to <u>you</u> for your purposes.
The real test is does it perform well and does it meet your expectations?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think someone just got owned very bad!
GK I know you did not want to flame him but GOOD JOB!
Hmmm.
Hmmmm.
OK.
You have a nonprogrammable chip that's designed for an OEM ITR.
It sounds like you've got some decent head work, but it's from a B17, not a red head.
A good header as far as the cheap ones go, and let's assume the rest of the exhaust is well put together.
You're in Pennsylvania. The humidity will be high this time of year, and let's assume you're not in Buffalo, but more toward the Philly side of the state.
Let's assume it's not raining when you go to the dyno.
Let's assume it's a Dynojet, made within the past couple of years.
I'm gonna guess <FONT COLOR="red">180</FONT>.
It really is a guess, though, based on variables that we're guessing at.

It's not a bad idea to get a baseline just so you can see it on paper and tell people something about your car, but you're not going to get the most out of it until you're actually tuning it.
What everybody was trying to tell you is that every dyno is different, every day is different, and the dyno chart will really only be useful to <u>you</u> for your purposes.
The real test is does it perform well and does it meet your expectations?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think someone just got owned very bad!
GK I know you did not want to flame him but GOOD JOB!
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im not trying to have anyone guess what ill get, im trying to see what other ppl with similar setups hit, and yes i know every dyno is different etc etc, the fact is i hit 152 whp with my gsr with same i/h/e and i was wondering what ppl hit with an itr and similar mods
im not trying to have anyone guess what ill get, im trying to see what other ppl with similar setups hit, and yes i know every dyno is different etc etc, the fact is i hit 152 whp with my gsr with same i/h/e and i was wondering what ppl hit with an itr and similar mods
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im not trying to have anyone guess what ill get, im trying to see what other ppl with similar setups hit, and yes i know every dyno is different etc etc, the fact is i hit 152 whp with my gsr with same i/h/e and i was wondering what ppl hit with an itr and similar mods
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which MEANS YOU ARE STILL GUESSING.....NO 2 engines with same mods are gonna put down the same numbers!~!!!!!!!!!!!!! goollllllyyyyy
im not trying to have anyone guess what ill get, im trying to see what other ppl with similar setups hit, and yes i know every dyno is different etc etc, the fact is i hit 152 whp with my gsr with same i/h/e and i was wondering what ppl hit with an itr and similar mods
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which MEANS YOU ARE STILL GUESSING.....NO 2 engines with same mods are gonna put down the same numbers!~!!!!!!!!!!!!! goollllllyyyyy
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