Right now I have Skunkworks coilovers. They are bouncy as hell and I hate them. Maybe if I raise it up an inch the ride will be a lot better.

Aside from stock springs, what springs/coilovers would you get?
I know dampers would be the best way out, but right now I'm short on money and I want something thats STIFF and not bouncy, as well as handling superiority.

Also, I live in NOVA. If anyone wants to trade me for their stock springs I will gladly trade.

 

Go back to stock and wait until you have enough money for a either a full coilover set or Koni's with Ground Controls. Your current set-up is **** compared to stock.

 

Tein SS for $828 shipped from prostreetonline
or
Omni Power full coilover from omniman

relatively inexpensive solutions.

 

Go with spoon springs and bilstein sport shocks. Lowers the car about 1.5in. No bouncing and handles incredible.

 

Best? Maybe Moton's

Best/practical? GC/Koni

 

For your shocks look for used KYB-AGX, Tokico Illumina, or Koni Yellows. From there select some spring rates that fall within the critically damped range of those shocks (so between 200-600 lbs). Ask around for what combinations of spring rates people are running. Most are running rear rates that are about 100-200 lb/in stiffer in the rear (ex: 450 front, 550 rear).

You can find used springs here: https://honda-tech.com/zero...ge=10

You can probably get away with shocks and springs for about $500-600.

HTH

 

How bout Mugen Lowdowns? Good drop, plug and play, 5-way adjustable and a good ride.

 

JIC Magic FLT A2

 

H&R is a decent setup if you can't get your hands on a set of stock springs.

 

I was thinking about getting mugen lowdowns, but later on... for right now I just want some factory springs because these skunkworks are giving me headaches and sometimes i fall into epilepsy

 

i think apex'i has a few sets of their 99 spec n1 coilovers left.

 

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It's really going to be hard to come up with a short answer for that.

What are you doing with car? That'd help people decide how to answer.

For whatever it's worth, I have revalved Koni Yellow and Ground Controls, 400#F/500#R and this is perfectly streetable. (NB that perfectly streetable is a matter of opinion and varies from person to person.)

 

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Aside from stock springs, what springs/coilovers would you get?
I know dampers would be the best way out, but right now I'm short on money and I want something thats STIFF and not bouncy, as well as handling superiority.

Also, I live in NOVA. If anyone wants to trade me for their stock springs I will gladly trade. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You say you want the "best" suspension but you can't even afford dampers. So you are running stock shocks and lowering springs with adjustable perches.

It would be my guess that shortly after you installed the Skunks (did you lower the car more than 1"?) you blew your stock shocks by hitting the bumpstops. After that your car was "bouncy" That bouncy is a product of lack of control of springs and not spring rate. What you need to do is to control (or damp) the spring motion. You do that with shocks that are designed to handle the spring rate of your springs and the range of motion available.

The stock shocks are designed for the stock spring rates (between 200 and 250) at the stock height. The Skunks are probably between 250 and 350 unless you were foolish enough to tell whoever sold them to you that you were going to use them for racing (then they might be higher) The stock shocks can handle that spring rate but not in conjunction with a significantly shortened height.

Here's what I would do if I were you. I would buy Koni single adjustables. Here's the link:

http://www.tirerack.com/suspen...0&y=9

BTW - make sure you get "externally" adjustables at all 4 corners - they are $146 each. Do not get the $119 rears.

I would then mount the Koni/Skunk setup so that it was at stock ride height or maybe 1/2" below stock. I would then learn from my initial mistake and realize that the ITR was just about a perfect street car from the factory and I would promise myself not to modify it again with cheap parts that I knew nothing about.

-Alan

 

i like the omnipower coilovers.

bigger piston than koni, and cheaper than the
"koni/ground control" combination...which is what i have.

based on peoples reviews, i'd believe even with the harder spring rates,
the bigger piston on the omnipower coilovers keeps the ride on the street smoother.

 

I'm an Ohlins *****, but if I had to do it all over again, I'd save the cash and get a GC/Koni setup.

 

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I didn't know Ground Controls and konis was such a good setup. Has anyone done a skunk2/koni or agx setup? If so, what height can either of those shocks handle? My car is on skunk2 coilovers now, but i haven't decided on what shocks to get or if i should just change the setup to tein SS. By the way, i intend on keeping my car 5-6 threads from the bottom of the coilover.

 

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Word to that

 

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is absolute junk. one of these days i'll write my book about them.

 

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is absolute junk. one of these days i'll write my book about them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not recommended either. I would say they are 'ok' from my experience, even though I got nothing even close to what I asked for, but then I heard about Mike Pendola's super-leaky shocks and had to hear through a third party about JIC's imcompetence shining through as they tried to explain the 'error' in all of our products. I'd stay WAY away from these and JIC in general.

 

You would probably be the most happy with Mugen Lowdowns.

Try raising your car up a bit in the meantime - how slammed is it now? You might be bouncing off the bumpstops which is not a good thing.

 

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Mugen Lowdowns =

 

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Slowdown's rather. I'm yet to be impressed with the Mugen setup as compared to some of the other aftermarket setups I've experienced.

 

so mugen N1 is unimpressive kendall?
in combination with the rest of the parts would they still be unimpressive?

 

Hey, to each his own. Nothing personal against you, but I think some people are just too hardcore. The Lowdowns have addressed all of my concerns. Body roll has been all but eliminated, you can play around with the settings for street/track, installation was a breeze, and the product is high quality.

It's not the best coilover setup out there, but I didn't want an all-out racing setup anyway. I talked to the guys at King on the phone, and after our discussion they advised strongly against the N1 Damper Kit, and suggested the Lowdowns instead.
Not because the N1 is bad, it's a great setup, but it would've been too much, simply overkill compared to what I needed.

I think it all depends on what you need. Maybe in 2-3 years, if I still have the car, the Lowdowns will fell soft, and I'll have to upgrade again, just like it happened with the stock suspension.

But for a street/track combo that's an upgrade over the stock unit (and the stock unit is fabulous, BTW) the Lowdowns will do just fine.


Modified by fso_BamBam at 11:45 PM 5/27/2004

 

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in combination with the rest of the parts would they still be unimpressive?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Note that I never said anything about the N1's. I don't comment on parts I've never had any firsthand experience with. Just because I think the Lowdown's are subpar and overpriced, doesn't mean I believe all of Mugen's suspension is in the same boat.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fso_BamBam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, to each his own. Nothing personal against you, but I think some people are just too hardcore. The Lowdowns have addressed all of my concerns. Body roll has been all but eliminated, you can play around with the settings for street/track, installation was a breeze, and the product is high quality.

It's not the best coilover setup out there, but I didn't want an all-out racing setup anyway. I talked to the guys at King on the phone, and after our discussion they advised strongly against the N1 Damper Kit, and suggested the Lowdowns instead.
Not because the N1 is bad, it's a great setup, but it would've been too much, simply overkill compared to what I needed.

I think it all depends on what you need. Maybe in 2-3 years, if I still have the car, the Lowdowns will fell soft, and I'll have to upgrade again, just like it happened with the stock suspension.

But for a street/track combo that's an upgrade over the stock unit (and the stock unit is fabulous, BTW) the Lowdowns will do just fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A very good point.