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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 09:34 AM
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Just wanted to show you guys what I've been working on for the B20VTEC engines. A customer of mine had his Moroso pan modified to my specs and then I was able to route the tubes in a way that increased ground clearance some 1-1/4" over my older style header with the stock pan. I will be offering a "SMSP" spec oil pan built by Moroso from the get go. Moroso is currently reviewing my drawings and these pictures and I've been told to expect pricing by mid week. This pan will fit all B series engines and therefore can be used to aid ground clearance across the board with this flat style header.

The pictures are going to be posted by Austin who offered to host them (thanks) so please be patient. The pictures will include the modified pan, B20VTEC header and some comparison shots off a stock ITR collector. The primaries and secondaries haven't been coated yet so the finish isn't as nice as the coated collector.


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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:02 AM
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Will the oil pan be baffled for us road-racers?

Looking forward to seeing the pics
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:15 AM
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hello Austin, you there?

yoshi - who can host pix also
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:20 AM
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I will be offering a "SMSP" spec oil pan built by Moroso from the get go.



mmmm! Baffles please!

Will this work with a hytech header too?
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:23 AM
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I sent the pictures to Austin's work email and it looks like he is sick today so Yoshi234 is going to pull through.

Chad, The pan is still baffled, capacity is reduced by about 1/3 qt.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:27 AM
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The pan will work for any header. However, it was designed for use with my headers and it will be apparent when the pictures come up. The tubes on this header are large but the pan was spec'd to even handle large diameter tubes with nearly the same ground clearance. Larger tubes will probably be needed for the new Big B Dart blocks that can go up to 2.2L or 2.3L I believe.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:29 AM
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I gota go to a meeting, but I did make an album for them so check them out here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292269499

yoshi - who'll take a good look at them when he gets back
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:40 AM
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damn, is that a b series oil pan?

I wonder how much that damn thing will cost...

That header looks like a monster!

What is the other header compared to it? usdm?
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:48 AM
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Ken, It's a modified version of the Moroso 20901 and will fit any B series engine, however you do need a new pick up for the pan. In the picture you'll notice that the pan is at a slightly steeper angle than the header. That's to help get the oil back to the pick up. The header is parallel to the ground.

The comparison is with the USDM ITR collector. This header will use a different exhaust for the track versus street.

As for oil pan and pick up cost, I don't know yet. I know the initial number ordered will make a difference and as with all my pricing I'll try to keep it fair. After reading all the posts of guys banging headers I thought this was long overdue. If you still can hit this header you may also be leaving a black line of fluid under the car.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:50 AM
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VERY nice.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 11:18 AM
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Saaaaaweet!




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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 11:24 AM
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Nice Job


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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 12:06 PM
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whoa, nice. That last pic of the collectors is awesome.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 12:06 PM
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Nice work
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 12:37 PM
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good lord..that is gorgeous..
they should make glass freeways..so all that beauty can be seen by everyone!
good job smsp!
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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uh oh...mugen or smsp....crap!
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 01:14 PM
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Dave,

That header is looking might tasty!
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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Now that's a good looking header/pan...!
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 01:46 PM
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Wow, that looks great... keep us posted.

Oh, if you need a test dummy for the ITR, I'm 30 min away

Bryan


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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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Thanks for all the positive comments.

This header isn't sized for an ITR engine and would probably result is a power loss.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 03:06 PM
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well in that case i have a b20 vtec motor...you need a test mule?


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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 03:13 PM
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Nice header, is your header a full 2.5" collector on the inner diameter? looks real huge.
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 09:27 PM
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More like way bigger than 2.5!

I am doing testing on it. Ill let you Type-R owners know how it works on an almost

2 LITER Type-R I have been building. This thing is all out street dominator. I will also test it on a few fully built CRVtecs.

I will put it directly up against some other headers and put up a review.

Good work Dave. The header is bad ***.

Jeff
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:43 PM
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Looks Good Dave
Will there also be models like this for the 1.8L Setups?
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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:52 PM
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looks great
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