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Old May 24, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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i have a b16a2 us spec in my 92 vx hatchback
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i am wondering would i need a restior box for my 450cc dsm injectors
to work in my car ?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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anyone know?
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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yes!
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Old May 24, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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yes u do... write up can be found on hondata.com on how to instal a resistor box, many mebvers on HT sell em ...
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Old May 24, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Yes

http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo...ement

Scroll down a bit for install instructions...
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Old May 25, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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ok guys , just talked to a buddy of mines and he told me this...
yellow/black wires go to the black wires on the res. box
the red wire from the box , i can run 4 wires from the red one
to each color on the injector ... like run a red to the blue, red to yellow , red to brown , red to red on the injectors

is this correct?
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Old May 25, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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Old May 25, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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Old May 25, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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I think its easier to do the inline resistors.........just my 2 cents

jon
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Old May 25, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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yeah Fakc around and i might just go buy it at radio shack
btw
is this the right part number for it Catalog #: 271-132 ?

http://www.radioshack.com/prod...1-132

10 ohm 10W 5% Wirewound Resistor pk/2

$1.79 Brand: RadioShack
Catalog #: 271-132 Model: 271-132
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Old May 25, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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actually mine look a little different....let me get on the radio shack website and check it out.....

jon

EDIT: check out this link. its a full write-up on the injector and resistor pack/inline risistor http://www.homemadeturbo.com/t....html
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Old May 26, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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just do it like on the http://www.hondata.com site says it will be a much nicer install
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Old May 26, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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I'll post up pics of my install when I get a chance. I actually soldered plugs into the harness so that if I ever go to saturated injectors, I can simply remove the resistor box and plug the two plugs back up. Very clean install.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 07:21 AM
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thats a good idea
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Old May 26, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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here also

http://www.ecimulti.org/uberda...d=661
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Old May 26, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here also

http://www.ecimulti.org/uberda...d=661</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats all fine and dandy but you need to be a member to access that site
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Old May 26, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crXBoy69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats all fine and dandy but you need to be a member to access that site</TD></TR></TABLE>

so sign up, not like its going to cost you anything.

Plus its a great forum if you have an interest in tuning, na or FI!
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Old May 26, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll post up pics of my install when I get a chance. I actually soldered plugs into the harness so that if I ever go to saturated injectors, I can simply remove the resistor box and plug the two plugs back up. Very clean install.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A write up would be great...been thinking about doing it this way just to make it easier to go back to stock.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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I'm getting my digital camera on monday, so I'll do a writeup with pictures when I get it.
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Old May 26, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so sign up, not like its going to cost you anything.

Plus its a great forum if you have an interest in tuning, na or FI!</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually I've been on there for a couple months... just giving others the heads up
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Old May 26, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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http://www.ecimulti.org/uberda...d=661

Complete writeup there
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Old May 26, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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i just worked on it
car turns on , but it runs like **** !
like of on 3 cycl
what can be wrong
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Old May 26, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll post up pics of my install when I get a chance. I actually soldered plugs into the harness so that if I ever go to saturated injectors, I can simply remove the resistor box and plug the two plugs back up. Very clean install.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I would like to see pics/ details of this!
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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As promised here are some pictures:

As you can see here, I unplugged all four of my injector clips and took the end of the dead end connector off and used a multimeter on the diode/continuity setting to find out which of the four wires on the dead end plug actually went to the injectors. As it turns out, the four wires were all at one end. Do this for yourself, as I've seen it different on different cars.


I went to my local junk yard and found an older Accord that had a resistor box on it and cut both the male and female connectors off of it. As you can see, I soldered the MALE side of the plug to the harness side of the wires [the ones that run back to the injectors] and the female side of the plug to the wires that run to the dead end plug. Which wire gets soldered where on the plug is of no importance here...as long as all four yel/blk wires from the injectors make it to the dead end plug. I am currently running a stock setup right now [high impedance injectors] so I have the resistor box out of the loop currently, which is why the two white plugs are connected. As an aside, it doesn't matter what color plugs you use...the white plugs are from an Accord's resistor box, the green plugs are from a CRX's resistor box. The plugs are set up for 6 wires, but I only use 4 of them. You can see the short piece of the yellow wire in the picture below that I have cut off/am not using. The lone wire I cut off right next to the connector so there isn't some lone wire dangling, and water can't get into the connector.


I didn't feel like pulling everything out, so sorry about this next picture. While I was at the junk yard, I also pulled a resistor box, and was sure to get the male connector that is on the harness that the resistor box plugs to. The resistor box has 5 wires going to the plug...4 black and one red. Leave the four black ones in the female plug. De-pin or cut the red wire, but be sure to give yourself enough room to solder. I soldered four wires to this red wire [just split it four ways] and then soldered these wires to the four wires on the black plug. Again, just cut the dangling wire short so it doesn't get in the way or confuse you. The male plug that's in my hands is the one that is split up from the red wire. I just put stock wire loom and fresh electrical tape over everything for a clean install.


Finished product. If you have any more questions, ask. If you still don't understand what's going on, I guess I can pull it out and take some shots...just let me know.
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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what happens if you dont use the resistors if you try to use the 450's? they just dont "fire" at all???
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