i have a 1993 del sol s w/ com esuspension mods which i'm unsure of.
i looked through the handbook and unfortunately i cannot pinpoint exactly which class i would fall under. i think i would be in SM2 which allowes 2 seaters that cannot participate in the normal sm (not having 4 seats and all) but then theres also dsp. for del sol's. but my car isnt stock really....

my car:
1993 Del Sol S
stock engine
short ram intake, rs*r rear section
koni yellows
h&r sport springs'
stock del sol si wheels (14" alloy)

i have a 25mm eibach sway bar in the front. it uses stock mounting points but uses a brass spacer that drops the mount point of the bar itself down about an inch. (but the bolts and nut is in the same place)

the rear sway bar is a 17" eibach which uses the lca bolt to mount the brackets for holding the sway bar. definately not stock position. soon i'm ordering the comptech tiebar sway abr combo cause of a sale here on h-t but i dont think thats stock ount points either, it uses the mount points to mount the subframe enforcements but not the bar itself.

i have the emracing monkey bar set in the rear (which will be disassembled for the most part. but i was wondering if i were at all able to keep the furthest trunk bar or the upper strut bar. (the diagonal will be disconnected) or would it depend on the class i choose.

i have a neuspeed upper strut bar but it ounts to stock locations (upper control arm bolts) so no modification or drilling required.

i did however upgrade my front brakes to integra spec. (which was the same as del sol vtec brakes) but again, i have a 93, the vtec came out in 94.

i do have a front lip. some classes dont allow this (maybe i'm looking into stock too much)

thats about it. i registered for my first autocross w/ my car and i had to drop because i read that sts doesnt allow 2 seater "sport geared" cars.

a buddy of mine said csp or dsp, and all else fails sm2. am i getting in over my head? i have a feeling that while yes it is just for the experience and joy of driving, i will get my *** handed to me severely (in a class which my driving skill doesnt belong)

any help or guidelines woul dbe greatly appreciated. for the most part, things can be uninstalled on my car but i have no stock stuff left to put on.

also whats the deal with rear lower control arms. i have a set of aluminum ones but i think i have to keep to stocks to be legal>?

can anyone shed some light>?

thanks all.


....i'm just not very competative (yet). i want seat time, but i dont want to be in something i dont belong.



Modified by phantom_sol at 9:42 PM 5/23/2004

 

You can run DSP. The brakes would fall under the SP update/backdate rule, as long as they are identical to del Sol VTEC brakes (are you sure the calipers are the same?). You could also swap in a B16A engine and still remain in SP, since all del Sols are listed on the same line.

Edit: By the way, SCCA now has a regional-level STS2 class for the 2004 season.

Get rid of the EM Racing garbage; it's not legal in SP, and doesn't really serve a useful function anyway. You can keep the rear strut tower brace if you want though, that's legal.

 

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Edit: By the way, SCCA now has a regional-level STS2 class for the 2004 season.

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Keep in mind that there is NO update/backdate within ANY of the ST classes. Brakes would be illegal, and you couldn't swap the motors.

 

If you go back to the stock brakes and possibly remove the rear brace, not sure about that, then as stated above you can run STS2.

If you go with DSP, a front air dam is allowed. Swapping in a B16 is OK, but only if it is the version from the US model Sol, not a JDM version.

I recommend avoiding SM2 as the cars and prep level are rather extreme.

 

It would be a knife in a gunfight in DSP too, I'll have more data to back that up after Toledo.

Anyway, if I were you I'd set the car up for STS2. Fun class, cheap to run in, lots of legal mods to do and fun! You'd need to sell some of the not-legal stuff but that's no big deal, like was said it's not helping nearly as much as a nice set of 205/50-15 Azenis on some light 15x7's would.

When reading the rulebook, don't worry about mounting points for swaybars. Any attachment method can be used in SP, ST, SM, etc.

 

the thing is, while the diagonal cross bar and the rear strut bar made vextremely minimal (placebo) difference, the trunk bar made the biggest difference. more than any strut bar and lower tie bar has.

i checked during registry and i didnt see an sts2 class :\

thanks for the insight guys, i'm still kinda wary about where i should be. but it looks like either way, i'm going to be in some rough classes. anyone know if regulation permitts the neuspeed bar?

how about SM2?


Modified by phantom_sol at 8:49 AM 5/24/2004

 

Even if you were a top rung driver, you would have your *** handed to you by at least 4 seconds by a well set up SM2 car.

 

to my left is a cliff, to my right is a rhino, either way i'm screwed it seems

 

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just drive the damn thing.....

 

in reality, your screwed unless you have the right car for the class, you've spent the time and money to develop said car for said class, and you've spent the time and money to develop the driver. this applies to any class, be it stock, ST, SP, P, SM, or M.

you must decide the class in which you think you will a) have fun, b) can afford, c) can be competitive in. c is minimally important unless a and b are large enough to absorb the added cost of getting THE car and setting it up correctly. if you don't have the money to accomplish having a car that you can enjoy and that is as competitive as you can get it you must either drive it in a more inexpensive prep level or accept that you aren't going to have a well prepped car but you'll have fun driving it.

nate

 

yea btu arent 2 seaters restricted? for instance there arent many classes i can fall under. and its not like i can participate in the normal SM category.

i think i might just try sm2 (or whatever i am allowed to participate in) just to have some seat time. but not competatively.

i just need to find out what options i have as far as what class i fall under and then from their its just for experience.


hopefully the next car i get i wont be too egar to mod so i can at least participate in stock class for a few seasons.

thanks for everyones help thus far. suggestions are still welcomed