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Old May 23, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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So my best 60ft time to date is a 2.291

mods are :
quaife LSD
exedy organic clutch & 9lb flyweel
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skunk2 coilovers on 00ex shocks . ..

eh, i guess i also forgo to mention on was on
Falken Azenis 195/60/14 @ 30psi


if i had better struts could i possibly cut better 60ft times??

i've been wanting (if i ever get around to affording them) koni yellows. . . anything better than that out there that i havent heard of? or anyone suggest something better maybe cheaper or sum'n . .

btw, this is in a 2000 si

EDIT: tried to post this in the suspension forum but it said i wanst allow to


Modified by SeanJohn1802 at 7:42 AM 5/24/2004
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Old May 23, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i had better struts could i possibly cut better 60ft times?? </TD></TR></TABLE>


yea, i think so. along with the struts you should pick up a set of energy suspension or prothane bushings. they help alot. my friend has a 92 integra with stock suspension and just energy suspension bushings, and his handling improved extremely.

and the good thing about it is, the bushings are fairly priced too....
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Old May 23, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Default Re: Reason for bad 60ft times??? (SeanJohn1802)

your going in the wrong direction.. your problem is most likely in how your launching the car. im sure someone with good driving skills on the track can get better 60 foot times. resulting in better 1/4 mile times..
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Old May 23, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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just work on your launching. my best 60ft was a 2.1 w/ i/h/e and springs running on azenis with the tire pressure at 17psi and no lsd. haha missed 3rd so i wasnt happy. yeah with that lsd u should be getting better 60ft times
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Old May 23, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MHRacing-310 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your going in the wrong direction.. your problem is most likely in how your launching the car. im sure someone with good driving skills on the track can get better 60 foot times. resulting in better 1/4 mile times.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

im not sayin that im the **** at driving, cuz im not but with just those mods FULL INTERIOR (minus spare and jack, but my kenwood amp in back) i ran a 15.1x @ 89mph . . i've been told that with my mods thats not to shabby . .

eh, i forgot i have GSR cams in there, but not like their toda cams or anything lol . .

i been tryin to learn to slip the clutch upon launch at the track, unfortunately the sac raceway blows on a wednesday night last time i went i got 3runs in (waste of money)
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Old May 23, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Default Re: Reason for bad 60ft times??? (SeanJohn1802)

get a pair of slicks that will do it
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Old May 23, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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eh, i guess i also forgo to mention on was on

Falken Azenis 195/60/14 @ 30psi
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Old May 23, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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yeah u got to drop air psi. way down to 15 psi at least, what track were u at?
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Old May 23, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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i've read it was bad to drop the psi on azenis

sacramento raceway
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Old May 23, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've read it was bad to drop the psi on azenis

sacramento raceway</TD></TR></TABLE>why would it be bad? I was cuttin 2.29 on 40psi on azenis, I just didnt want to lower the pressure because i still had a long drive home. I fully plan to drop them to 20-22psi next time out..............John
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Old May 24, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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taken from this thread sacraceway

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esponet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lowering tire psi. below 20psi on street tires, especially azenis or any "road course tires" will not do you any good if not harm your grip. the sidewalls are thick. so no matter how low you run your psi. the sidewalls remain hard. and if any the contact patch will be less cause the buttom tend to concave upwards so you loose the middle part of the thread. slicks or streetslicks the sidewalls are thin and soft. (made for dragracing) so lowering the psi. will help keep the sidewalls soft. which help you grip off the line.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 24, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Slicks will help and maybe get rid of that 9lb flywheel, struts wouldn't hurt either, also look at the alignment if its lowered the camber could be way off and your not getting a good contact patch.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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well lowering the tire pressure on my azenis helped me a lot. at that psi the side walls didnt stay stiff. there is a gas station right outside the track so before i went home i just filled them up. after filling them back up they were fine, no problems
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Old May 24, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've read it was bad to drop the psi on azenis

sacramento raceway</TD></TR></TABLE>

you read wrong information..
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Old May 24, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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i run mine at like 17psi , they arent too too bad. i didn2.1 last time out , but have done 2.0 on them once or twice.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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I can tell u what might be wrong, I had a problem cuz I was getting 2.5-2.8 60ft time. U have to make sure that your car is perfectly leveled, with the Skunk2 coilovers its not easy, find a good precise way to measure the distance from the floor to the top of your fender. The back should be higher than the front but the left to right, front and back the hight should be exactly the same. After u have that done u dial in your camber and wheel alignment, those two are last cuz hight adjustment changes camber and wheel alignment. With this done I went from running 15.8-16.2 to 14.1 at 99mph. With better tires ill be in the 13's cuz I'm still on Azenis and 60ft is still at 2.29sec.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">taken from this thread sacraceway

ill quote

</TD></TR></TABLE>well you need to do some experimentation on your own. If your too afraid to lower the pressure then what else are you afraid to do???? Just play with stuff, find what works. No two drivers can maximize the exact same setup.....John
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Old May 24, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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before u drag race do u clean ur tires off in the water box or on the side of it?

with treaded tires u should burn out on the side of the box because water tends to get trapped in between the grooves.
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leadfoot - good ****, i know its kind of un-even, ill def. hav to look into that . . . maybe ill do that when i get shocks


h22john - i would have tired lowered tire pressure if i would have gotten more than 3 ****** runs out of 5hrs of being there for $15 . . gawd that still upsets me, oh well

redcivichatch - their just azenis . . dont think i need to be going thru the waterbox man, thats a rookie move right there, i can smoke em up just fine with out that. .
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SeanJohn1802 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

redcivichatch - their just azenis . . dont think i need to be going thru the waterbox man, thats a rookie move right there, i can smoke em up just fine with out that. . </TD></TR></TABLE>

try to get slicks smokin hot with no water
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Old May 25, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Slicks will help and maybe get rid of that 9lb flywheel, struts wouldn't hurt either, also look at the alignment if its lowered the camber could be way off and your not getting a good contact patch.

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Why do people always say the lightened flywheel is bad or you could do better wihout?? I cut consistant 1.60 60' useing the Tilton clutch/flywheel set-up. It runs a flywheel that weighs 6lbs and a total clutch/flywheel weight of 14lbs.

My All-motor car runs the Fidanza 8-9lb flywheel and cuts 1.7-1.75 60'.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why do people always say the lightened flywheel is bad or you could do better wihout?? I cut consistant 1.60 60' useing the Tilton clutch/flywheel set-up. It runs a flywheel that weighs 6lbs and a total clutch/flywheel weight of 14lbs.

My All-motor car runs the Fidanza 8-9lb flywheel and cuts 1.7-1.75 60'.</TD></TR></TABLE>yea i was wondering the same thing ..
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Old May 25, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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nothing wrong with a lightened flywheel, just makes it a bit harder to launch because of how fast the revs climb/drop with the flywheel. I am assuming tahts why ppl keep saying that. Just takes some getting used to, i'm all for lightened flywheels
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i said not to go in the box....duh
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Old May 26, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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do you warm up skids in second gear instead of first, just dump it at 6-8000rpm.
Also launch higher, you might need to launch closer to the redline than you are.
My mate runs 13.7 in a EF civic with a B16A on Azenis with 2.0 60fts. he launchs at 8000rpm on a stock LSD..
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