i dont know much about the spool kit, but i basically know(heard) its the easy way out of buying lsd (quaife,etc.). is it worth buying for a daily driven h22 civic, or is it more for drag racing. i heard something about its mainly for driving(racing) straight because if ur hauling *** on the public street and try to turn u will go straight b/c of the fact the spool is giving equal power to the wheels. please no flaming, i just wanna know the truth from experience, not from someone who just wants to sell me.
thanks guys!

 

spool will affect ur steering. ur diff now allows one wheel to turn and one to like turn less. i dunno its hard for me to explain. basically it compensates for turning radius to allow turning easier. a spool isnt gonna do that. it will only allow both wheels to turn at the same rate. making it difficult to steer. but till def. help in the straight line

 

the spool diff will make your car not really even be able to turn.


Modified by H22BuiltEGhatch at 6:35 PM 5/19/2004

 

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uhhhhh.....no

it will be a little more effert to turn and will fight you alittle bit but nothing to extreme. Also i woulnd't run stock axles w/ a spool. A spool spins both the wheels at the same speed at all times when your turning or not. I see no problem with since when my car comes back out i will have one as well.

 

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uhhhhh.....no

it will be a little more effert to turn and will fight you alittle bit but nothing to extreme. Also i woulnd't run stock axles w/ a spool. A spool spins both the wheels at the same speed at all times when your turning or not. I see no problem with since when my car comes back out i will have one as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not its gonna affect the steering alot. it isnt like going from power steering to non-power steering. its gonna be a pain in the *** to turn.

 

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not its gonna affect the steering alot. it isnt like going from power steering to non-power steering. its gonna be a pain in the *** to turn.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Trust me it ISN'T as bad as people make it out to be.

 

SO HOW MUCH DOES THE SPOOL RUN FOR OR WHERE IS THE CHEAPEST PLACE TO GET ONE?
sorry for the caps

 

 

is a spool the equilivant to a welded diff?

 

Bump. Does anyone actually have one of these installed on a daily street driven ride?

 

I have driven a spool equipped mustang.If you drive this on the street, your a fool.Both wheels turn at the same time, no torque bias, nada! 50/50 thats it, thats all.Straight line, nothing beats it, not even a LSD, but in the twisties, i pity you.As a daily driver, you really have to love your car, its gonna be hard.But you can do it.As a comparison, would you use an all-motor dragster that barely idles as a daily driver.If you can stand it, go for it.

 

damn...not THAT bad.....it causes some odd tire wear on FWD usually.....the average joe WON'T like it normally...just like they don't like stiff motor mounts, open exhausts, ITB, etc....still completely driveable but a good LSD is still more desirable to anyone who will do more than drag race......

 

Must be those damn stangs lol

 

I know that in a Jeep wrangler you can still turn the thing but the inside tire has to hop for the whole turn. Think about it, when you turn, the inside wheel is on a much smaller turning radius than the outside, so the inside wheel needs to turn much faster. Forget about cornering and throw away your swaybars, neutralize your alignment settings and everything. I think if you want a FF drag racer you get a DSM or a CRX. Dont waste double wishbone front and rear suspension just to go in a straight line.

 

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Trust me it ISN'T as bad as people make it out to be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

have you ever driven one? my friend has one in his drag car and says its a turnaround bitch

 

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or he could do as he pleases and "waste" the god-like, awe inspiring double wishbone setup lol........why did honda ditch it if it were so superior......you can make ANYTHING handle....your reasoning is the same as those who say "why try to make a honda a dragster".......

 

Okay I come from the four wheeling world where we have more traction aides than anyone else.

YOU DO NOT WANT A SPOOL IN THE FRONT OF YOUR CAR.

Your wheels will ALWAYS have to turn at the same speed. You will put a whole bunch of stress on your axles. You will either chirp your tires around each turn or it might even throw one wheel into the air a little bit. You will hate it if you ever try to drive your car in the snow.

Get a good LSD. In the four wheeling world, the only use for a locker or spool is if you plan on lifting a wheel off the ground because than an LSD will not help you.

 

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have you ever driven one? my friend has one in his drag car and says its a turnaround bitch</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes i have and it isn't that bad. Well sounds like he is running slicks also and turning turning around on slicks is a PITA anyway.

 

Why did Honda ditch it? Cost. A macpherson strut design is fully assembled so that it can be held up to the car and bolted on. A double wishbone suspension is much more difficult and time consuming to assemble.

Soichiro Honda died in 1992 and Honda has gone downhill ever since that last generation of cars. The 96 Civic had a slightly inferior suspension to the 92, and the newest Civic suspension is now just your run of the mill, Camry suspension. Now we don't even have an Integra we have this crappy RSX suspension.

You don't believe that a double wishbone suspension is "so" superior to the standard Mcpherson strut design?!!?

It's not true that any car can be made to handle (with reasonable modification), unless your standards for handling are low. A double wishbone suspension is leaps and bounds ahead of a macpherson strut design, and the macpherson strut equipped car will never be able to achieve the same level of handling. Try and look for other cars with a double wishbone suspension. You wont find any economy class cars, the Civics suspension is in a class with the Toyota Supra.

I often ask myself "why make a FF honda a dragster"? It can be done, obviously, overcoming some major difficulties, with some good results. But why would you only develop half of the car's potential?

 

not everyone wants to do anything but go fast in a straight line though.....i've drag raced, then autocrossed, then done both with the same car.....an xr4ti that ran 12's on street tires but could hang with the big boys in the c5 vettes in the class they put me in.......it was fun.......and it was a 4 wheel, independent macpherson strut setup as well.....i agree completely, dwb setups are nice, love them, but aren't necessary...just like 5 liters of displacement aren't necessary to run nice 1/4 mile times......and since nearly everyone will NOT get 100% of the potential out of what they're driving, it's just kinda "holier than thou" to scold someone for wanting to do one or the other......just like it would be dumb to scold someone who wanted to make a merkur xr4ti a super track car......they dominated for a while in the late 80's.......all types of racing......