uberdata installers in NOVA??
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uberdata installers in NOVA??
my setup is:
93 honda civic dx 5spd.
lsvtec: (b18a1 bottom end) (94 gsr head)
stock p28
550cc injs.
stock gsr im
70mm tb
will be boosting w/ an sc34
i have been searching for e-mange for a while now and the best bang for the buck right now is uberdata. the problem is i have no tuning skills and very little mechanic skills and i need some help with chipping the ecu and so on......
inline pro built my motor and b&t is gonna build the turbo kit and do the swap for me. all im asking is if someone can chip my ecu for me and give me some advice.
93 honda civic dx 5spd.
lsvtec: (b18a1 bottom end) (94 gsr head)
stock p28
550cc injs.
stock gsr im
70mm tb
will be boosting w/ an sc34
i have been searching for e-mange for a while now and the best bang for the buck right now is uberdata. the problem is i have no tuning skills and very little mechanic skills and i need some help with chipping the ecu and so on......
inline pro built my motor and b&t is gonna build the turbo kit and do the swap for me. all im asking is if someone can chip my ecu for me and give me some advice.
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Re: (Silverskylinegirl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uberdata? Why not just get it done right the first time and go the AEM EMS route? You'll thank me later.</TD></TR></TABLE>
let me guess you run AEM on your skyline...lol
let me guess you run AEM on your skyline...lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
let me guess you run AEM on your skyline...lol </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure what you mean by that but, FYI I run the F-CON PRO. I talked to AEM about running their EMS but decided against it in favor of the F-CON (we already had the maps ready with the FCON, so it's a no brainer). AEM is a far superior EMS in comparison to the Uberdata/Hondata. All I was trying to impress on the boy was how important tuning really is. Even if his motor is stock he can benifit so much more with the AEM. It seems like the Honda/Acura guys love to skimp on tuning, why do you think so many people still run the hack? I'm not saying the AEM is the end all be all (I prefer Motec), but in comparison to Uberdata AEM is light years ahead
let me guess you run AEM on your skyline...lol
</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm not sure what you mean by that but, FYI I run the F-CON PRO. I talked to AEM about running their EMS but decided against it in favor of the F-CON (we already had the maps ready with the FCON, so it's a no brainer). AEM is a far superior EMS in comparison to the Uberdata/Hondata. All I was trying to impress on the boy was how important tuning really is. Even if his motor is stock he can benifit so much more with the AEM. It seems like the Honda/Acura guys love to skimp on tuning, why do you think so many people still run the hack? I'm not saying the AEM is the end all be all (I prefer Motec), but in comparison to Uberdata AEM is light years ahead
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Re: (Silverskylinegirl)
with the money saved from going the uberdata route vs the aem em$... you can spend tons more on the proper dyno tuning of the more than capable socketed honda ecu. then you can get some food, and a drink... still having some money left in your pocket all said and done.
skyline driver on a fi honda board... hmmmm
skyline driver on a fi honda board... hmmmm
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm not sure what you mean by that but, FYI I run the F-CON PRO. I talked to AEM about running their EMS but decided against it in favor of the F-CON (we already had the maps ready with the FCON, so it's a no brainer). AEM is a far superior EMS in comparison to the Uberdata/Hondata. All I was trying to impress on the boy was how important tuning really is. Even if his motor is stock he can benifit so much more with the AEM. It seems like the Honda/Acura guys love to skimp on tuning, why do you think so many people still run the hack? I'm not saying the AEM is the end all be all (I prefer Motec), but in comparison to Uberdata AEM is light years ahead </TD></TR></TABLE>
what does running uberdata have to do with skimping on tuning? a tuned car with uberdata is not as safe as tuned car with AEM? come on, not everyone has $1200 to drop on an EMS, and it seems most of the ones that do only end up using the same features that can be found in uberdata/hondata.
I'm not sure what you mean by that but, FYI I run the F-CON PRO. I talked to AEM about running their EMS but decided against it in favor of the F-CON (we already had the maps ready with the FCON, so it's a no brainer). AEM is a far superior EMS in comparison to the Uberdata/Hondata. All I was trying to impress on the boy was how important tuning really is. Even if his motor is stock he can benifit so much more with the AEM. It seems like the Honda/Acura guys love to skimp on tuning, why do you think so many people still run the hack? I'm not saying the AEM is the end all be all (I prefer Motec), but in comparison to Uberdata AEM is light years ahead
</TD></TR></TABLE>what does running uberdata have to do with skimping on tuning? a tuned car with uberdata is not as safe as tuned car with AEM? come on, not everyone has $1200 to drop on an EMS, and it seems most of the ones that do only end up using the same features that can be found in uberdata/hondata.
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Mpir3, are you really Sponsored by SSAutochrome?
i don't think what Silverskylinegirl said was wrong or right just her 2 cents.
i remember Mase saying that he wouldn't tuned with Uberdata bc it is still not perfect or something they're still bugs or something.
someone correct me if im wrong.
i don't think what Silverskylinegirl said was wrong or right just her 2 cents.
i remember Mase saying that he wouldn't tuned with Uberdata bc it is still not perfect or something they're still bugs or something.
someone correct me if im wrong.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twkdCD595 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the money saved from going the uberdata route vs the aem em$... you can spend tons more on the proper dyno tuning of the more than capable socketed honda ecu. then you can get some food, and a drink... still having some money left in your pocket all said and done.
skyline driver on a fi honda board... hmmmm </TD></TR></TABLE>
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my rom in everytime I need to make a change
skyline driver on a fi honda board... hmmmm
</TD></TR></TABLE>I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here
Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my rom in everytime I need to make a change
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EgSick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mpir3, are you really Sponsored by SSAutochrome?
i don't think what Silverskylinegirl said was wrong or right just her 2 cents.
i remember Mase saying that he wouldn't tuned with Uberdata bc it is still not perfect or something they're still bugs or something.
someone correct me if im wrong.
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if i were tuning cars as a business i wouldn't either...time = money and most tuners charge a flat rate fee for tuning (ie $300 for street tuning, etc). would you rather tune hondata cars where you know the system inside and out and have the car done in 2 hours, or spend all day messing with uberdata (some have a smooth time, others don't). In the end the results will be the same.
From a DIY perspective where you have time to learn the system and tune it yourself, theres really no reason not to chose uberdata.
i don't think what Silverskylinegirl said was wrong or right just her 2 cents.
i remember Mase saying that he wouldn't tuned with Uberdata bc it is still not perfect or something they're still bugs or something.
someone correct me if im wrong.
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if i were tuning cars as a business i wouldn't either...time = money and most tuners charge a flat rate fee for tuning (ie $300 for street tuning, etc). would you rather tune hondata cars where you know the system inside and out and have the car done in 2 hours, or spend all day messing with uberdata (some have a smooth time, others don't). In the end the results will be the same.
From a DIY perspective where you have time to learn the system and tune it yourself, theres really no reason not to chose uberdata.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my rom in everytime I need to make a change </TD></TR></TABLE>
for the $1200 i saved i can put up with taking the 10 seconds outa my day to pop in a new chip ( no sodering required)
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here
Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my rom in everytime I need to make a change </TD></TR></TABLE>for the $1200 i saved i can put up with taking the 10 seconds outa my day to pop in a new chip ( no sodering required)
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socketing is remedial... and you solder in your rom each time you change it?!? ( do you understand socketing... guess not?).
yes you have 2 type-r so it cool... I knew that really through my magic ball though .
(btw got any pics, sounds like quite a collection... .... post em up in the appearance forum or something)
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yes you have 2 type-r so it cool... I knew that really through my magic ball though
.(btw got any pics, sounds like quite a collection...
.... post em up in the appearance forum or something)Modified by twkdCD595 at 9:58 PM 5/15/2004
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Re: (Silverskylinegirl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Even if his motor is stock he can benifit so much more with the AEM. It seems like the Honda/Acura guys love to skimp on tuning, why do you think so many people still run the hack? I'm not saying the AEM is the end all be all (I prefer Motec), but in comparison to Uberdata AEM is light years ahead </TD></TR></TABLE>
someone likes to drop names...
i have no experience with AEM, but motec's cust. service blows ***. while mapping the R6 on the formula SAE racecar, we had a few questions (we came to find out were rather remedial) and motec USA had no clue, referred us to MoTeC australia who refused to help because we bought a north american version. we had to figure it out ourselves. their product is top notch, but good luck getting any help with it if you have problems.
uberdata, on the other hand, has an entire online community dedicated to providing insight into problems. fact is, not much out there will run a honda engine better than a honda ECU. unless you are full out racing, the only features you NEED are already incorporated into uberdata. not to mention you'll learn a hell of a lot more about how your EFI system works through learning to DIY than you will just pluggin and playing. that, in itself, is worth far more than any feature AEM could throw at me.
what you call skimping, the rest of us call education. your solution seems to be to throw money at the problem until it goes away. i think the rest of us would rather solve the problem using the materials we have, even if it means learning a little something along the way. to each their own i guess...
Even if his motor is stock he can benifit so much more with the AEM. It seems like the Honda/Acura guys love to skimp on tuning, why do you think so many people still run the hack? I'm not saying the AEM is the end all be all (I prefer Motec), but in comparison to Uberdata AEM is light years ahead
</TD></TR></TABLE>someone likes to drop names...
i have no experience with AEM, but motec's cust. service blows ***. while mapping the R6 on the formula SAE racecar, we had a few questions (we came to find out were rather remedial) and motec USA had no clue, referred us to MoTeC australia who refused to help because we bought a north american version. we had to figure it out ourselves. their product is top notch, but good luck getting any help with it if you have problems.
uberdata, on the other hand, has an entire online community dedicated to providing insight into problems. fact is, not much out there will run a honda engine better than a honda ECU. unless you are full out racing, the only features you NEED are already incorporated into uberdata. not to mention you'll learn a hell of a lot more about how your EFI system works through learning to DIY than you will just pluggin and playing. that, in itself, is worth far more than any feature AEM could throw at me.
what you call skimping, the rest of us call education. your solution seems to be to throw money at the problem until it goes away. i think the rest of us would rather solve the problem using the materials we have, even if it means learning a little something along the way. to each their own i guess...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy scarecrow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what you call skimping, the rest of us call education. your solution seems to be to throw money at the problem until it goes away. i think the rest of us would rather solve the problem using the materials we have, even if it means learning a little something along the way. to each their own i guess...</TD></TR></TABLE>
nicely put...
where i live i think there are like 5 people including me that use Uberdata... some have never heard of it... most are skeptical b/c its soo damn cheap to learn how to set it up... and the rest are just too ignorant to even think about what Uberdata can actually do... let alone even taken the time to use it.
i don't care really... my thought on fuel management is... keep them ignorant, most of them can't afford Motec, AEM and such... even if they can... good luck finding someone qualified to tune it... i know how to chip and tune my own ****... haha... and every time i mash the gas its that much more satisfying.
what you call skimping, the rest of us call education. your solution seems to be to throw money at the problem until it goes away. i think the rest of us would rather solve the problem using the materials we have, even if it means learning a little something along the way. to each their own i guess...</TD></TR></TABLE>
nicely put...
where i live i think there are like 5 people including me that use Uberdata... some have never heard of it... most are skeptical b/c its soo damn cheap to learn how to set it up... and the rest are just too ignorant to even think about what Uberdata can actually do... let alone even taken the time to use it.
i don't care really... my thought on fuel management is... keep them ignorant, most of them can't afford Motec, AEM and such... even if they can... good luck finding someone qualified to tune it... i know how to chip and tune my own ****... haha... and every time i mash the gas its that much more satisfying.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by evosol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and every time i mash the gas its that much more satisfying. </TD></TR></TABLE>
isn't it though?
i'm so fond of uberdata that my current project involves modifying a pgmfi ECU to run the 3SGTE in my MR2. if i succeed, i have $200 standalone engine management. if i don't, i learned a hell of a lot about my car. either way, i win.
and every time i mash the gas its that much more satisfying.
</TD></TR></TABLE>isn't it though?
i'm so fond of uberdata that my current project involves modifying a pgmfi ECU to run the 3SGTE in my MR2. if i succeed, i have $200 standalone engine management. if i don't, i learned a hell of a lot about my car. either way, i win.
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[QUOTE=filthy scarecrow]
someone likes to drop names...[QUOTE=filthy scarecrow]
How else would you know what systems I was talking about if I didn't mention names, jackass
And your problem with Motec would be considered an "isolated incident", are you sure it was Motec and not TEC (Electromotive)? Whenever i've called for help Motec has always been happy to assist, even with the "remedial' ones
From what I understand about Uberdata it won't work with more than 15 pounds of boost, is that correct? So what needs to happen if say I want to run 16-30psi? Does Uberdata have an upgrade, or do I need to move on to another EMS (I won't mention names this time OK
).
I will admit that i'm not as familiar with Uberdata as I am with other EMS systems, that dosen't mean I can't have an opinion or preference right?
someone likes to drop names...[QUOTE=filthy scarecrow]
How else would you know what systems I was talking about if I didn't mention names, jackass
And your problem with Motec would be considered an "isolated incident", are you sure it was Motec and not TEC (Electromotive)? Whenever i've called for help Motec has always been happy to assist, even with the "remedial' ones
From what I understand about Uberdata it won't work with more than 15 pounds of boost, is that correct? So what needs to happen if say I want to run 16-30psi? Does Uberdata have an upgrade, or do I need to move on to another EMS (I won't mention names this time OK
). I will admit that i'm not as familiar with Uberdata as I am with other EMS systems, that dosen't mean I can't have an opinion or preference right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">[QUOTE=filthy scarecrow]
someone likes to drop names...[QUOTE=filthy scarecrow]
How else would you know what systems I was talking about if I didn't mention names, jackass
And your problem with Motec would be considered an "isolated incident", are you sure it was Motec and not TEC (Electromotive)? Whenever i've called for help Motec has always been happy to assist, even with the "remedial' ones
From what I understand about Uberdata it won't work with more than 15 pounds of boost, is that correct? So what needs to happen if say I want to run 16-30psi? Does Uberdata have an upgrade, or do I need to move on to another EMS (I won't mention names this time OK).
I will admit that i'm not as familiar with Uberdata as I am with other EMS systems, that dosen't mean I can't have an opinion or preference right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the amount of boost is all relative to the map sensor.
someone likes to drop names...[QUOTE=filthy scarecrow]
How else would you know what systems I was talking about if I didn't mention names, jackass
And your problem with Motec would be considered an "isolated incident", are you sure it was Motec and not TEC (Electromotive)? Whenever i've called for help Motec has always been happy to assist, even with the "remedial' ones
From what I understand about Uberdata it won't work with more than 15 pounds of boost, is that correct? So what needs to happen if say I want to run 16-30psi? Does Uberdata have an upgrade, or do I need to move on to another EMS (I won't mention names this time OK
). I will admit that i'm not as familiar with Uberdata as I am with other EMS systems, that dosen't mean I can't have an opinion or preference right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the amount of boost is all relative to the map sensor.
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Re: (Silverskylinegirl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my rom in everytime I need to make a change </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a zif socket wow i need to take a break everytime i pull a chip out of my ecu
regardless...to each his own!!! you wannna spend a grip on an aem do it, i would rather save that money for something that is just fine for a street car.. aem is overkill for a street car!!!!!
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here
Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my rom in everytime I need to make a change </TD></TR></TABLE>i have a zif socket wow i need to take a break everytime i pull a chip out of my ecu
regardless...to each his own!!! you wannna spend a grip on an aem do it, i would rather save that money for something that is just fine for a street car.. aem is overkill for a street car!!!!!
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Re: (Silverskylinegirl)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my ROM in everytime I need to make a change </TD></TR></TABLE>
You'll stick with AEM? i thought you said you were running a F-CON Pro?
Soldering every time? what the hell are you talking about lol. You solder once, then you just remove the chips. It takes about 5 secs to pull a chip, lets not be lazy here people.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
From what I understand about Uberdata it won't work with more than 15 pounds of boost, is that correct? So what needs to happen if say I want to run 16-30psi? Does Uberdata have an upgrade, or do I need to move on to another EMS (I won't mention names this time OK ). </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong, uberdata now has the 3 bar and 3.5 bar map sensor feature working flawlessly as well as the data logging and other features. There is someone running 17 or 19 psi if im not mistaken on the uberdata forum, you really should check it out.
For a free software you cant beat it. But i just have one question, why run the AEM EMS over uberdata? is it safer? not really, it has more features to keep you safer, but if you know how to tune and what you are doing uberdata is fine. AEM sure as hell isn't cheaper. Maybe its just cause of the name.
I also own 2 Type-R's, can I still be here
Ok ok, so the Uberdata is inexpensive in comparison (I can agree on that). I'll stick with AEM thanks, for the simple fact that I don't need to keep removing/soldering my ROM in everytime I need to make a change </TD></TR></TABLE>You'll stick with AEM? i thought you said you were running a F-CON Pro?
Soldering every time? what the hell are you talking about lol. You solder once, then you just remove the chips. It takes about 5 secs to pull a chip, lets not be lazy here people.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silverskylinegirl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
From what I understand about Uberdata it won't work with more than 15 pounds of boost, is that correct? So what needs to happen if say I want to run 16-30psi? Does Uberdata have an upgrade, or do I need to move on to another EMS (I won't mention names this time OK ). </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong, uberdata now has the 3 bar and 3.5 bar map sensor feature working flawlessly as well as the data logging and other features. There is someone running 17 or 19 psi if im not mistaken on the uberdata forum, you really should check it out.
For a free software you cant beat it. But i just have one question, why run the AEM EMS over uberdata? is it safer? not really, it has more features to keep you safer, but if you know how to tune and what you are doing uberdata is fine. AEM sure as hell isn't cheaper. Maybe its just cause of the name.
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uberdata users unite.
The problem people have is this: uberdata was (and still is, but not quite as much) under development as all other engine management systems were at one point. It changes daily (sometimes even more), so you can never really make the same statement twice about a limitation.
Can it only run 15lbs of boost?
Well, a few months back yeah.
Does it have boost cut?
Nope, not 3 months ago, does now.
Can it do full throttle launch and shifting?
Well, last year it couldn't.
Does it have datalogging?
Well, a month ago it didn't.
See where I'm going with this? People hear/see about a limitation and take it to be permanent. All EMS's were a work in progress at one point, 99% of them aren't available when they're under construction... uberdata is.
It's a double edged sword in more ways than one.
The problem people have is this: uberdata was (and still is, but not quite as much) under development as all other engine management systems were at one point. It changes daily (sometimes even more), so you can never really make the same statement twice about a limitation.
Can it only run 15lbs of boost?
Well, a few months back yeah.
Does it have boost cut?
Nope, not 3 months ago, does now.
Can it do full throttle launch and shifting?
Well, last year it couldn't.
Does it have datalogging?
Well, a month ago it didn't.
See where I'm going with this? People hear/see about a limitation and take it to be permanent. All EMS's were a work in progress at one point, 99% of them aren't available when they're under construction... uberdata is.
It's a double edged sword in more ways than one.
