does this motor worth the money $12000? if not, can you build it for less and reliable too? opinion needed.
http://www.high-performance-engines.com/b18c1.html

 

HM, thats a hard question. I think itll be worth it because it carries a warrenty on it, but thats about it. If you had the b18c and you had 12 grand you couldnt get 275 out of 12 grand. But then again, its an already built motor, thats no fun. Its up to you, but yes in actuality it is worth it, especially with a 1 year warrenty.

 

thats about 230 to the wheels for 12 grand. not worth it in my opinion.

 

Way to pricey 230 whp can be had for 6000-8000

 

if you want a crate motor this is a decent way to go:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PACKAGE 3: CRATED MOTORS 0003

Description: "The All Motor KILLER" Package. 2 Liters.
**SMSP Header included in price.
**Portflow Designs Head Package, designed by Import Builders, only available to public through Import Builders. (This head package is not available through Portflow, only IB)
Includes:

* new axles
* shift linkage
* ECU
* wire harness
* stock mounts
* complete motor
* Tranny included (B16A or GSR)

This is a KILLER total rebuild package for those of you that just want to be super fast. This package includes Import Builders completely revamping the motor. Sleeved block. Tranny with Honda LSD. New IB Spec forged pistons 84.5MM, new Probe rods, knifed crank, balanced crank, new bearings, new oil pump, bigger injectors, new fuel rail, new water pump, new timing belt, new alternator belt, new IB Spec valvetrain, new race cams, cam gears, Mugen chipped ECU 9500 RPM rev limit OBD1, new Clutchmasters light flywheel, fuel regulator, gauge, Hondata Stage 2NN, Injen Intake, "Special" intake manifold, Import Builders custom head package, 68MM TB, new valve seals, new head gasket, new valve cover gasket, and new CM Stage 4 clutch with new bearing. VTEC tranny with LSD, shipping included. When you get this motor package, you will not need anything. It comes with new oil, new filter, and the new radiator hoses with clamps. Just install it, break it in, and tune it.

Options:

* Turbo package: no custom header, no intake, no big cams. IB "Killer" Turbo kit Add $2500.
* Individual Throttle Bodies: add $1200.
* Tuning options: Have us install, break in the motor and tune it, here!! Then we ship, you install, and that's it. Go race! $1500. Comes with Hondata tuning, of course.

Estimates: 220-250 HP at the wheels. (We have seen as high as 246, same build)

Price: est. $12,000 shipped Depending on car and HP desired</TD></TR></TABLE>
they actually have dyno to back that up, unlike many other places.

 

275 is probably the potential of that motor.

The ad and specs are misleading. There are other parts that you need to get to complete the setup. Manifold, header, fuel system, engine management.. and more.

How did it make 275hp. stock intake manifold? Individual Throttle bodies?
Crate motors don't work for many of us. we need custom designed engines to fit our needs.
and 12G is alot of money. we just completed a race motor for a customer who plans on competing in the street All motor class and price range was $8000 for head and block. and Im sure with better parts than this 12G motor.

 

and considering that place doesnt give any detailed info, that seems like a loser deal.

it can all come down to who ported the head and what header. 230+whp aint easy folks

 

275hp with only one cam, imagine what it would do if they used two of them.

Just a minor spelling error (one would hope) but non the less this seems like a very fishy deal to me.

 

275hp...pump gas b series. Wow. I had no clue you could make that kind of power on 91 octane with a bseries. all motor.

 

That is the GSport motor "The Beast" Well worth it IMO do any of those other engine builders give you a 12 month warrenty?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92 civic VX B18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is the GSport motor "The Beast" Well worth it IMO do any of those other engine builders give you a 12 month warrenty?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The one he gave us to look at was a 1 year warrenty or 15,000 miles.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92 civic VX B18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is the GSport motor "The Beast" Well worth it IMO do any of those other engine builders give you a 12 month warrenty?</TD></TR></TABLE>
that just goes to show how stupid they are

what if a i put a supercharger on it, and beat teh hell out of it

did 3rd gear to 5th gear top speed pulls multiple times on the freeway

after 15 or however many minutes eventually the pistons start to melt or valves with start to melt

its a race motor, and i cant believe any reasonable company would put a warranty on something. it doesnt even say what it does or doestn cover. could just cover mfg defects.

 

I have a 234whp B20vtec for sale... Cheaper then that for sale... low miles, brand new, went to dyno and track and now it's just sitting in a street car that doesn't get driven..

 

why you selling it?

didnt you have some wiseco pistons and RM springs/retianers in it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why you selling it?

didnt you have some wiseco pistons and RM springs/retianers in it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No that's my motor, the above motor is a friend's of mines..he's considering selling it...

 

i really doubt that warranty deal. they'll give you the run around and all that warranty BS.

YOu think they'll cover the warranty when I put it in a Pro-AM car that we take to the limits.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exospeedAMcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i really doubt that warranty deal. they'll give you the run around and all that warranty BS.

YOu think they'll cover the warranty when I put it in a Pro-AM car that we take to the limits. </TD></TR></TABLE>
but it says on their site that they will waranty it, it must be true

 

They wont warranty it if u put racing **** on it because ur engines most likely to go when u do that, they wont cover it trust meeee.

 

How bout this. Dont get it. And lets end this thread.

 

the 275 hp rating is bhp..not whp. and the warranty is the real deal. shorblock configuration...no warranty. if you buy the longblock...you get the warranty.

 

I'll sell you my whole Crx for around that cost.

 

that is fly wheel power, you can match that for alot less.

 

should be 230-235 whp with a manual tranny and about 110whp with a auto

 

hard to believe they can make that kind of power with "only" 11.5:1 compressoin