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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Here is my setup Im going with.

JE Pistons 9:1 cr.
Eagle connect rods
Cometic Head gasket.
Balanced Crank\Knife edge crank

Head work
Ported head with 3 angle valve job, Ferra Valves,
Crower Stage 2 turbo cams with Springs and retainers
STR 70 mm Throttle body(port matched)
JRSC port matched

Tranny work SS tranny fully built and cro treated.
My car is goin in next week and it will take 2 weeks to complete.
How much power you think I will be making with this setup?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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get rid of the ss and it will be a great setup
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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No, i have 1500 bucks in the parts for tranny alone.. I would but I spend too much on the TC and rebuild kit.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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the tranny will always be the weak point of the set up. but if you're keeping it, i recommend getting a tranny cooler.

edit: how much boost are you running?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Yeah I know its weak link. I had my rebuild kit Cryo treated and my TC modified. Im only going to run 6 lbs of boost and my Engine management is Greddy E manage with display..

How much power you think I can pull from this? The car will be dynoed and tuned. They are saying some where between 250 whp to 275. Im thinking more of 240 hp.. I HOPE
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Rebuilding that SS tranny was the biggest waste of money you could have ever done. Cyro treating it too? 6 months from now when you opt to buy an auto tranny with a diff you are not going to get a dime for the SS one.

You are not going to be happy with your power output, that's about all I can say.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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yea get rid of the auto trans, it will fail on you much much faster than manual trans. plus u lose more power with auto trans than manual trans.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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on top of that you will avg a second slower....
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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and it makes the car heavier
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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and e-dynos are generally the least accurate
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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If your boosting 9-10lbs on that charger im gonna say 240whp. Not too great. But thats what i have to say. WIth taht tranny though you you will be able to put that power down, but if your whole setup was on a 5speed you would easily hit 260whp.

But then again my answer is full of **** cause im a talking e-dyno.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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I don't know about knife-edgeing either
but best of luck with your set-up
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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why's he running turbo cams on a blower?!
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't know about knife-edgeing either
but best of luck with your set-up </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with him, whenever you change the amount of material on your crankshaft, you change its harmonics, knife-edging may have move your crank harmonics to an undesireable position? who did the work on it for you? and who did it?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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I'm going to cry.

That's the most overbuilt motor/head combo you could possibly have, and you're pairing it with an SS tranny and a JRSC and an E-Manage???

Why did you even bother doing all that motor work and head work in the first place? Heck, a stock prelude motor can easily handle the kind of power you'll make with a JRSC. Jackson claims 235 with their setup, but that would be on a 10:1 compression stock motor. On a 9:1 motor, expect like 220 whp....since you have the motor, you can spray it on top of that with a direct port setup to try and make some real power, but that's just a bandaid really......

That motor setup deserves to make 500+ whp with a sweet turbo system.....just curious, did you decide to build the motor or did some shop convince you that you needed a built motor so they'd make a bunch of money?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Yea he has a point, that motor is way too built for a dinky JRSC setup. Someone Sell this man a bangin' turbo kit with some slicks to pair it up.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 04:31 AM
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and a 5spd
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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I made that decision on doing full head and motor work. My brother told me I was nuts.. I am retaining the SS due to I like it I have 88 k miles on the lude and the tranny is still holding up.. I know turbo you can generate more power but I kind of want different setup. I know this is very expensive project I got a total investment on 14k with motor and tranny work.. Ok so you guys think the head work is too much? Im dropping off the car this Monday to get the work done.. So should I dis the head work? I still got that choice.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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A motor will only be as strong as its weakest components.

In your case those components being the tranny and so-called 'EMS.' Stock H series heads can flow up to 400whp... since you MIGHT hit 220-230whp I say keep it stock. Save your money for a new tranny and an true EMS.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Well head work will only benefit if you run high boost,since your only going to be running a JRSC at most 9lbs its sorta point less hwo you re did the bottom end seeing how you will never go above 9lbs. You should of just stayed with stock sleeves and stock bottom end, and got it tuned right instead of redoing the bottom end. Its a waste becasue you will never use that bottom end to its fullest potential. You shoulda researched more before deciding to do the bottom end and running a JRSC. :shakeshead:
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Ok guys you saved me 2 grand in parts and labor on the head so I will stick with Stage 1 turbo cams with no head work.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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hey i am trying to get a h22 vtec head you know anybody with one of they cause i am trying to do the h23 h22vtec conver. and how much is it
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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<U>"I agree with him, whenever you change the amount of material on your crankshaft, you change its harmonics, knife-edging may have move your crank harmonics to an undesireable position? who did the work on it for you? and who did it?"</U>
Notice he said balanced and blueprinted... If done correctly that will not be a problem.

I have basically the exact same setup you are wanting... One thing I strongly suggest is that if you are going to keep the JRSC, go higher compression than 9:1... With a properly built block, you can run 10:1 all day long on low (JRSC) boost... I am running 25-29lbs on my block and it's 10:1..

<U>"why's he running turbo cams on a blower?!"</U>
Boost is boost, it doesn't matter where it comes from... The object here is to make the most out of what is being fed to the motor by altering lift and duration along with overlap.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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i always believed turbo cams were designed to spool the turbo better by letting exhaust flow out quicker, so why would a blower benefit from this with the addition of the loss of back pressure?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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I dony see sleeves in that setup
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