Going to replace my oil pan gasket because it's leaking slightly. Need advantage and disadvantages of using a gasket or just using silicone. I'm leaning towards using the silicone since I've done it before on previous cars without any issues. Gaskets can sometimes be troublesome.

 

id use the gasket because its just a pull off old clean surface put new on a torque down, im sketchy on useing rtv to make a gasket that big, but hey to each his own

 

you must use a gasket you cant just use silcone on a integra it will leak ....

 

use the gasket with some high-tach permatex (in the small white bottle) and youll be good to go........

 

I used a new gaskent and hondabond around the corners

 

use honda bond

 

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and dont over tq the bolts down, you dont wanna snap it and also it will leak if you over do it too

 

HondaBond...

 

Use a new OEM gasket. Attempting to make one out of HondaBond or gasket maker goo is extremely ghetto and just plain dumb. I know a guy who tried to do that once... the oil leaked out and the engine seized up, right after he rebuilt it too!

A new gasket is only $10-15 or so... I promise you it will cost a lot more to replace the engine. It'll probably even cost you more just to replace the oil that leaked out.

 

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Plenty of cars spec. rtv silicone gaskets for oil pans, automatic transmisson pans etc. I doubt that the oil pan gasket caused all the oil to leak out... i think he has other issues. Still undecided but am leading towards the rtv or hondabond gasket.

 

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Plenty of cars spec. rtv silicone gaskets for oil pans, automatic transmisson pans etc.
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Maybe so, but Honda doesn't. There is a reason that they make an actual gasket for this.

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I doubt that the oil pan gasket caused all the oil to leak out... i think he has other issues. Still undecided but am leading towards the rtv or hondabond gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The entire engine rotates when you step on the gas... fill a glass to the top with water, tilt it a few degrees, and tell me it doesn't make a mess. Sure, it wont be much, but an engine also has oil returning to the pan from above, so that's going to leak too.

I say it's a bad idea, but it's your engine to destroy... And even if you frequently check the oil level and top it off, you're still going to spend more time and money than you would have if you just did it the right way to begin with.



Modified by Weston at 9:06 PM 5/6/2004

 

i'd try cork and silicon

 

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Have fun drilling a bunch of holes in it for all the little bolts, and then trying to keep it from sliding out of place when you install it.

I don't see why you guys are so opposed to using the gasket that was actually designed for this... it's OEM, it works perfectly, and it's inexpensive.

 

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Maybe so, but Honda doesn't. There is a reason that they make an actual gasket for this.

The entire engine rotates when you step on the gas... fill a glass to the top with water, tilt it a few degrees, and tell me it doesn't make a mess. Sure, it wont be much, but an engine also has oil returning to the pan from above, so that's going to leak too.

I say it's a bad idea, but it's your engine to destroy... And even if you frequently check the oil level and top it off, you're still going to spend more time and money than you would have if you just did it the right way to begin with.

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Honda engineers don't do everything right, due to manufacturing limitations and cost effectiveness manufacturers choose different manufacturing methods. It's not just a matter of reliability in the field which is what I'm interested in.

I can spare the time and effort to make sure that this seal is more reliable than the factory condition. That's why I'm leaning towards the silicone. I'm looking for long term reliability of this seal which the Honda engineers have not provided, oil pan leaks seem to be a common issue. I can guarantee that if I use silicone it will not leak immediately... who knows how long it will remain reliable in this application. I'm going to try it out.

 

Just install the gasket and put a light lair of silicone on the gasket

 

wow this much drama over a damn oil pan gasket. its really simple, if u have a stamped steel pan, u use the gasket, if u have a cast aluminum pan u use hondabond, simple as that, sheesh.

 

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Plenty of cars spec. rtv silicone gaskets for oil pans, automatic transmisson pans etc. I doubt that the oil pan gasket caused all the oil to leak out... i think he has other issues. Still undecided but am leading towards the rtv or hondabond gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>


the cars that use silicone for a gasket have different oil pans that are made for a silicone seal but the honda pans have dimples that hold the gasket in plae while you install it .... the dimples are about 1/8 in tall so your silicone will be that thick ... the silicone wont dry for at least 3 days ... just a dumb idea with the silicone...

the proper way is to use very little silicone only where there is a hump or where the oil pump is ...

 

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haha seriously.

just buy an oil pan gasket... use hondabond on the corners.. and bolt on the oil pan. saves you the drama.

you spend less to go half-assed... you spend more in the long run. i should know.

 

i need a new oil pan for my teg too.. but i cant find any anyone know where i can get a new one ? pm me

 

PM Len, he'll hook you up. He hangs out in the ITR forum.

 

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the cars that use silicone for a gasket have different oil pans that are made for a silicone seal but the honda pans have dimples that hold the gasket in plae while you install it .... the dimples are about 1/8 in tall so your silicone will be that thick ... the silicone wont dry for at least 3 days ... just a dumb idea with the silicone...

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I've seen plenty of cars with stamped steel pan using silicone so the steel vs. al. doesn't fly here. I did not know about the stand offs so that's a bit more info for me... thanks.

RTV doesn't take 3 days to dry... it's serviceable within a few hours and fully cures within 24 hours, even at 1/8" thick.

Let this thread die!!

 

i would use a new gasket and hondabond jus to get it right the first time so u wont have to deal with it again.

 

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I've seen plenty of cars with stamped steel pan using silicone so the steel vs. al. doesn't fly here. I did not know about the stand offs so that's a bit more info for me... thanks.

RTV doesn't take 3 days to dry... it's serviceable within a few hours and fully cures within 24 hours, even at 1/8" thick.

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i was not saying that only aluminum pans use aluminum ... for example the 93 camry uses silicone on the steel pan and the 94 maxima uses silicone too on its steel oil pan .... but it is true that it will take days for silicone to completely dry i had to pull apart a maxima 3 days after i had put the oil pan on and the silicone was wet still in spots so just think if you were trying to put 1/8 in thick layer on ...

either way kill this thread ...

 

Why kill this thread, I found it quite amusing. sad but still amusing. There is much irony in the fact that there are many people out there that "think" they are smarter than a muli-billion dollar company and the resources available to them. As for myself I would rather find out they are before I rely on some shitty advice.

Cost of a gasket about $16-20.
Cost of silicone about $8-10.
The emotion in a thread posted at a later date, PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!

AB

 

make sure you put the hondabond on right. we put a new gasket on and hondabond thinly on each side to prevent leaks and it was too thin on one side.. it ended up leaking.