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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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So here's the story. 1995 Integra LS car starts but when you go to turn it off it it won't turn off unless you unplug the main relay. Could it be possibly a relay that is stuck on telling the fuel pump to stay on or could it be something else. Also if you take the fuse out for the gauges the chimer for the door starts to work, but if you put it back in the chimer goes off even though you have the key in the ignition and the driver's door is open. Let me know guys. Thanks
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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the only reason yer car shuts off is beacuse you stop a flow of electricity. hence when u unplug the relay. i can almost gurentee yer ignition is shot, when you turn yer key off the connection is still being made. throw a new igniton or one from a junk yard and see what happens. as for the door chime. im sorry those friggin things are annyoing
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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thanks
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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There is 3 pins on there that when connected, the motor will not shut off.. I think its 1, 5, and 7.. I would guess that your main relay is messed up.. I know this because I though my main relay was acting up so I bypassed it by running a jumper between the 3 pins and it didnt shut off..
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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i would go with your ignition switch i heard that if you have a heavy bunch of keys over time it takes it toll!!! just my 0.2cs
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Sounds like faulty ignition switch to me. AND NO that doesn't mean go get a new msd .
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Sounds like you have a high point on one of your contact points in the ignition switch.

If this is the problem (ie you have tried everything else)

A.Take the covers off surrounding the steering wheel hub, three screws underneath, top is clipped on.

B.You will see the tumbler, what the key goes into sort of underneath.

C.On the left of the tumbler on the end you will see where the wires attach to. There will be 2 gold screws holding this on.

D. Undo the screws and pull the switch out. You will see a white cap covering the part where the wires attach to. You will need to take this off, but be careful not to brake too many tabs!

E.--Now, get a Flat head screw driver and turn the switch to see if the radio ect come on. When the car has started, put your finger on the main big contact.

F. If it starts to get hot quickly then you have a bad contact. If not or if so you will want to clean off the contacts-the inside under the cap.

G-Try again and if it gets hot clean it more. Should be fine by now though.

H. Don't put it all back together yet. Attach the cap back on and screw it to the tumbler. Now use the key and see what happens. Should start fine.

Hope this helps, I only did this in a Books a Million parking lot at 11:OO pm
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Well I used a main relay from a OBD2 and it still wouldn't turn off. Also when you turn the key off while the car is still running and turn it back to the 1st position the radio knows it 's in the correct spot. I'm thinking that maybe there is an open in the accessory lights wiring somewhere causing the lights to stay on all the time.
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Have you done any work on the dash at all? I heard someone here mention the other day that they swapped the hazzard plug with the clock plug by accident and that exact problem was happening. All was good after they swapped the plugs back.

Good Luck!

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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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if you still get power going ot the main relay after you shut it off, sounds like the ignition switch to me, because the main relay power wire is on teh ignition switch, when you turn the key to the on position it get power, when you turn it off it cuts power, so sounds like the ignition swithc is stuck in the on position
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Old May 8, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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thanks guys I'll try some of your suggestions
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Old May 8, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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i dont know about all this ignition talk... i have limited experience with non-engine parts of a car. i did have a similar problem with my car and it ended up that the signal wire for the starter had some of its insulation stripped off and was periodically touching my downpipes which would **** everything up. maybe you have an exposed wire somewhere or you have a bad ground. **** if know, these other guys are probably more right than me
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Old May 8, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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ok if you want to get all technical. first trace the power wire from the main relay to ever it hooks up to, to get power. which i thought should be the ignition switch. if it is the ignition switch then when you turn the key off it should cut power to the main relay wire, so test for power on the ignition switch on the main relay wire but you gotta take off the main relay wire otherwise if it is getting power from another source you will still get power thinking its the ignition switch when it might not be. or you could just take off the main relay wire and see if it has power when disconnected, if it doesnt then you know the wire is good, if it does then you know you got power going to it from somewhere else. ok this is alot simpler then i made it sound.

simpler way, take off main relay power wire where ever it goes, probably ignition switch, test wire to see if its hot, if it is then you gotta look on the wire to see where the power is coming from, if it is not hot then test the ignition switch where the main relay connected to, if that hot then you know you got power goign to it when there shouldnt be.

you can try trace your wire to see if the insulation is cut anywhere, but i mean wiring usually doesnt go bad that much.
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Old May 9, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Default Re: If you can figure this one ur a genuis (civickiller)

I hate electrical
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