alright guys....here is the situation....

the ol' h23 is running very well so im going to hang onto it a little bit longer. ive got the bolt-ons taken care of and am looking into cams. the only choices i have so far are JG, WebCam, and Gude. the shop told me to stay away from gude. they said that jg makes good cams for sohc engines, but their dohc stuff wasnt anything to brag about. they said that my best bet was webcam as they have had the best gains and luck with them. i would however have to get the springs/retainers from jg since webcam doesnt have them for the h23. anyone here have any comments/suggestions on any of these cams? im looking for something that is going to give me the best NA power with idle no higher than 1200 and i dont want to have to rev to the moon to get the power. i wont rev higher than 7500 at MAX! and that is a high max...id like to stay lower than that if possible.

 

**** JG Springs.
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who else has springs/retainers for h23? anyone else have bad experiences with jg springs?

 

I have the web cams on my H23 and am not using springs or retainers. They are not race cams like the 301 from JG so they are not needed. All of the power is below 7 grand so it is safe. I can only say good things about the cams, they give decent reliable power at a small cost not only in money but in lower rpms also. If you have any more questions let me know. I don't have any dyno figures to tell you about but I do drag the car and can tell you I dropped 4/10 of a second in the 1/8 of a mile and gained 3 mph. I don't know what that translates into the quarter but I will say its worth it. Our non-vtecs need all the help they can get in the upper range.

 

.4 sec in the 1/8th mile!?!?!?! holy crap man....thats a huge improvement! how much were they to install? where did you order them from and how much did you pay? finally i found someone with them! hooray!

 

also...what do you shift at and what mods do you have? what was your 1/8 mile time?

 

anyone have any guesses at what shaving .4 off in the 1/8 mile would be equal to in the 1/4?

 

I am shifting at 7grand. I have been running 9.8 on a crappy track. New model preludes typically run 10.5 there. I have most of the bolt-ons and the cams with gears of course. You have got to get gears with the cams. Also you would well to get a fuel riser to bump up the fuel a little to compensate for the extra lift in the cams.

 

what kind of cam gears you running?

 

just another option for you.i have the gude cams with the head package and have had no problems.i know lots of people have had bad experiences with gude and i agree that their customer service sux but the performance of my motor is great.with just the head package and bolt ons the car went from 9.8 in 8th to 9.1 in the 8th(15.2-14.2 in the quarter)thats a second drop for around 1500 dollars.after some tuning and slicks the car went 13.9(cant remember 8th time).I went with jg for the bottom end build but have not run the car yet with new setup.these cams pull hard from 4000-7000.just wanted to pass along some info.

 

Hey str8rcn,
do you have the H22 or H23

 

i have a h23 head but now have a h22a jdm block.it has been bored and the rods have been lengthened.the blocks are the same as far as outer dimensions go.joel out at jg got me the block because my stock h23 block was screwed due to a spun bearing.its a weird setup but it works great and its cool to show people a type s block in my car.i see you are from tuscaloosa(roll tide)i am originally from montgomery and still go there every week to check on my house and see my fiancee.maybe all of us alabama luders could get up sometime.


[Modified by str8rcn, 5:32 PM 11/3/2001]

 

how much total did you pay for your cams Silude93? with install and everything?

 

A-E-M gears- $250
Web cams- $295
install- $200
tune- still to come, I have gears set at +2, -2 exhaust. But don't know if its best.

Yes I live in T-town. We should get up together there are quite a few of us.

 

SiLude93 - On my old Si with (with stock cams) the best cam gear settings were +3 in, -1 ex. I don't know if these would be right for your cams or not, but it may be worth trying.

 

for the H23, WebCam is about $600 shipped for both cams... and labor is about 4 hours i believe...

 

it shows $295 on their site. no way it could be $600 unless they put lead in the box before shipping it.

 

Crower!

 

crower doesnt have anything for the h23 as far as my knowledge goes. anyone else know anything different?