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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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i noticed that oem steelies are only welded in 4 spots, has anyone EVER had a steelie self destruct on him, in any condition or circumstance?
are they speed rated or will a properly balanced steelie sustain 150mph with appropriate tires?

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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Interesting point you have there. I haven't seen any disasters with steelies. Probably very strong since they are so heavy.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting point you have there. I haven't seen any disasters with steelies. Probably very strong since they are so heavy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good post question.

I'd guess no, but not to mean they aren't safe at higher speeds, just not rated as tires are per say.

Steelies do flex though.

But, there are plenty of cars with them stock on the road that come with high speed rated tires CRV/Accord/Civic/ Etc. The most prolific would be Police cruisers, since the steel wheel is cheap to replace and pretty robust. For certain their tires are at least speed rated to 140 MPH so the wheels must at least be good to that or above.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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black steelies = nascar wheels?

y shi - who'd nvr herd of stEElz fajling
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yoshi234 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">black steelies = nascar wheels?

y shi - who'd nvr herd of stEElz fajling</TD></TR></TABLE>

C'mon, I've bent a few in my life and 2 that were bent enough to deflate the tire (of course I've done that with alloys too).

Of course they fail. It just depends on what type of torture test you put them through.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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What did you do? Run over 5 feet curbs?
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What did you do? Run over 5 feet curbs? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, in 2 different of the aforementeioned Police cars. I was over a full island divider (both curbs and off road at 30 MPH) and the other was a sidewalk with just the passenger side of the car at about 50 MPH. Funny though the alignment wasn't too out of whack after either trip.

And the alloy was my first R when it went sideways into a concrete K rail.

I think I can break just about anything car related.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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diamond star racing makes the nascar steelies, i assume they are fully welded, oem only has four 4" MIG beads.

how much would you guess an oem steelie flexes?

edit: im not worried about hitting objects, any wheel will get bent, im concerned that a cornering load at a high speed will snap the welds and the tire-rim will disconnect from the center of the wheel.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by euclid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">diamond star racing makes the nascar steelies, i assume they are fully welded, oem only has four 4" MIG beads.

how much would you guess an oem steelie flexes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't guess at that. I just don't know.

Are you meaning as a track wheel? I'm certain there are a bunch of stock cars that have been DE'd with steel wheels with no adverse effects.

As a competitive wheel, it will weigh and flex more than the best light weight wheels so I wouldn't choose it for that.

Currently I only use my steelies to store my car in the winter but, I wouldn't hesitate driving them on the road in any condition. Heck, if they had good rubber on them and I didn't have any other wheels, Yes I'd track them. But, they don't and I do so end of story for me. They are heavier and you can notice the differece. Mine also happen to be 6 1/2" wide as opposed to the stock R wheels 6".
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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yeah i guess they are probably stronger but not weaker than oem R wheels
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Default Re: are steelies speed rated? (1GreyTeg)

do the 15x6.5 cr-v steelies have a fully welded rim since it is designed for a heavier truck?

my steelies only have 4 welds, this is what bothers me, if it was fully welded i wouldnt be concerned.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr1244 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i guess they are probably stronger but not weaker than oem R wheels</TD></TR></TABLE>

what does that mean?

a steelie is designed completely different from a cast alloy, it has an outer ring which the tire is mounted, then the center "cap" is welded to the outer ring in the correct offset... the standard oem steelies are welded in 4 spots, not around the whole wheel.

i am concerned that at high loads these welds will break and then the tire will disconnect from the hub. before i push these i want to be sure it is reletively safe and nobody has had this happen to him.
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