I'm consdently changing my mind day in and day out on what i wanna do motor wise to my 90 si crx. One day i want to build up my d16 then next i want a ZC or after that I want a B18c. I know it's kinda a desicion that i have to make but maybe you guys can shine some light on my motor hungry dilema.

I have done lots of research on all three motors and know the potentioal there is but just can't seem to decide. Whats going to be the diffrent way to go. I don't want something everyone down the street has.

I'd also like to add that i don't want a 9sec. beast just something that can pull atleast 12's or low 13's.

 

i'd go with the b18c if you have the money... the others are fine if you want to go 13's and 12's also...

 

A b18c would be the easiest route to hit 12's/13's. Otherwise build the fawk outta your d16 you have already with the money that you would've boughten the b18c with and you should be able to run 13's.

 

id go with the b18c and do all the bolt-ons and u would be very happy over ur stock motor

 

it all depends how much you want to spend. B18c is a good choice cuz you can build it up NA or boost it if you decide to later on.

 

If you have the money available to be contemplating the B18C, you can either purchase that or build up and turbo the D16A6 you have now. It'll put you in the same ballpark as in costs.

 

jdm d15b
or D16z6
OBD1 conversion
HF Manifold
T25
FMIC
DSM 450's
and uberdata.
around 1500.00 for the whole setup.
decently reliable and you will hit 13's easy.

Check this writeup on http://www.ef-honda.com
http://www.ef-honda.com/main/viewtopic.php?t=2666
he hit 13.6 with that setup in a 93 CX

 

from personal experiance..

JDM B16 W/ 100 shot nitrous = 12's

by all means, its not reliable, so i built a B16 from the bottom up (everything's forged)

now... your stock D series with a turbo.. will make you some power, but a fully built all motor SOHC, that would of cost the same amount of a stock B18C changeover but would benifit you, in the reliability of a stock, everyday motor.

the choice is yours. i persoanly like the fact that i can depend on my stock motor every morning.

 

I LOVE D-SERIES VS. B-SERIES POSTS BECAUSE THEY ARE ORIGINAL!

Everyone knows the only good way to make a honda fast is to use both a b series and a d series together. Duh. Twin engine pwnz you.

 

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agree'd.. but will you admit that the price of a souped up SOHC would put out the same power, if not less, than the price of a stock DOHC?

ive learned a long time ago.. its not worth the money.. nice.. unique? yes, but not practical.

 

yea
if you want bang for the buck rock a custom turbo set up on a stock D with good fuel. they semi are decently reliable and even if you do pop the motor D series blocks are what $500.00 so at worst case scenario a 500.00 fix

 

swap in a sohc vtec and turbocharge

 

d series is your mother.

 

What is NA?? Sorry, new to the board...still unfamiliar with certains acronyms.

 

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normally aspirated ( all motor ) ( no nitrous ) ( no turbo ) ( no supercharger ) (no tornado...oh that dont count, you get the idea )

 

Id run the d16 turbo... my friend had one in his civic and it ran good times!

 

dohc zc turbo, d series turbo. in essence is still a D y0.

but to the sohc zc vtecs !

 

its all up to you and how much of a challenge you want... i mean after all thats what racing is all about... a challenge... the hardest challange you will have is with a SOHC motor but if your up to it go with it.... its all in what you like

 

It really all depends on how much HP you want or if you want N/A or Turbo. If you are going turbo you can keep your D series build it and buy a Turbo. It will be built not like a stock B that will cost you about the same as buying a B and will take more punishment since its built. You can accomplish 300whp with a build D turbo. But if you want NA and you want 200whp you should go B18c or c5. It all depends on your preference though if you are going to autox you might want to go B18c5 you can also go D series Turbo on autox but you might experience lag. Or build the D NA but might not reach what a B18c5 will do. Or if you are hitting the strip you might want a turbo setup. Its really your choice either D or B can make some nice power if you do it the right way. Some people say D series cant do to much power it might be true it cant match the B but I have known a few with over 140whp and even Wil from Exospeed told me he did a 180whp D16y8 engine for one of his customer NA.

 

building a D series is fun cheap and easy. you can get an a6, put in ZC pistons and get a race head. Check out all motor forum, they make some crazy power swapping D series motor parts. I wish i went that route because im over 2200 on building my b16 and $1500 into a d series would make more power.

 

hhhm thanks for the post guys, it seems still back and forth tho, I don't know what the hell to do at the moment, but a still think it would be great to blow a v8 away and then tell him i have a 1.6L haha. well one question, it vtec a good way to go? If i go vtec I could do a vtec swap on my d16 or i could swap a sohc zc in, but then agian I have a friend with a DOHC ZC and his car runs nice times. You can check his car out at http://www.teamautonutz.com

 

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I find that awfully hard to believe. Unless, of course, you REALLY did something wrong with that $2200 you spent on your B16A. For $1500, you could not get a D-motor to equal even a stock B16A.

 

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I find that awfully hard to believe. Unless, of course, you REALLY did something wrong with that $2200 you spent on your B16A. For $1500, you could not get a D-motor to equal even a stock B16A.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup if you spend $2200 and you arent faster then a D series then you did something wrong. But if you also spend $1500 on a D and cant be faster then a Stock B16a then you did something wrong as well. I guess some people dont know the potential of the D so they find it easy to just swap. Yes it will never be faster NA as a built B but its not a sloush built correctly. My built D is now running under $1200 with built head complete valvetrain, cam and high compression 11.1 pistons.

 

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My built D is now running under $1200 with built head complete valvetrain, cam and high compression 11.1 pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Alot of this depends on (1) what kind of hookups you can get on the parts, and (2) how much of the work you can do yourself. The average consumer is going to have a hard time buying all this stuff (plus the requisite gaskets and other necessities) for $1200 retail. Hell, pistons alone are going to cost ~$500 for the set.

Remember also that the B-series motor is always going to have the edge when it comes to reliability. Therefore, a B-series motor is going to be MUCH better for the street than a hyper-built D-motor.

 

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Alot of this depends on (1) what kind of hookups you can get on the parts, and (2) how much of the work you can do yourself. The average consumer is going to have a hard time buying all this stuff (plus the requisite gaskets and other necessities) for $1200 retail. Hell, pistons alone are going to cost ~$500 for the set.

Remember also that the B-series motor is always going to have the edge when it comes to reliability. Therefore, a B-series motor is going to be MUCH better for the street than a hyper-built D-motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope.
You can use OEM pistons of a ZC and D16a6 to trow on your Z6, Y8 Vtec engines and get 11.1+ compression depending on the piston. And you can get them of here on the clasiffieds here on H-T for about $50 the set. And I didnt get hooked up on the head build aswell I got mine from exospeed. And any car is unreliable if not taken care of or built right.