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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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I currently have a 96 Civic EX. My tranny went out a couple weeks ago and was gunnna rebuild it but decided to upgrade now than later to a b16. My problem is i got a B16 (Sir2), and the guy that is installing my engine said i would need diff. motor mounts cauase the engine itself comes with EG/DC motor mounts. He aslo mentioned something about OBI, OBDII........??????? Can you guys help me out with info. Do i have to get new mounts for my Civic "EK" or can i use the ones that come with it. and about this OBD1 OBD2 stuff? I believe the b16 engine is OBD1.....
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Sounds like the engine was previously in a EG/DC. If that's the case, you will need engine mounts for your EJ. Also being that your EJ is 96, it is OBD2 and you'll need an OBD2-OBD1 conversion harness if the motor/ECU is OBD1.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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I belive u have to get "EK" mounts
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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as far as mounts you are going to need the 99-00 si rear mount bracket and driver's side upper mount bracket... for the rest you can use the mounts/brackets already in your car.

if the motor is obd1, then you better just stick with that.... run an obd1 computer and you can change over to a hondata setup..... don't bother trying to convert to obd2a (96-98 civics) because it will be a big hassle.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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ThAnKs FoR tHe TiP BeTo!!!
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Team 4R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as far as mounts you are going to need the 99-00 si rear mount bracket and driver's side upper mount bracket... for the rest you can use the mounts/brackets already in your car.

if the motor is obd1, then you better just stick with that.... run an obd1 computer and you can change over to a hondata setup..... don't bother trying to convert to obd2a (96-98 civics) because it will be a big hassle.</TD></TR></TABLE> This just about sums it up, I think...
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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get some hasport mount, u will need then in the long run, plus u need then now
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get some hasport mount, u will need then in the long run, plus u need then now</TD></TR></TABLE>
how much do they go for, the problem is im a little short in cash right now cause of the swap, and just looking to get the motor in, how much do used OEM motor mounts go for?
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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Hasport mounts run 500 bux maybe less, used oem ones i would never put in my car, possibly new OEM ones but thats still cutting it close
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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You dont need the Hasport mounts. I believe they're around $400-500. The only reason to upgrade to CNC'd mounts is if the ones you plan on using are torn/ripped, which then you can buy motor mount inserts for $30 and you wouldnt be able to tell any difference between the Hasports and the stocks with inserts. A buddy of mine bought Hasports after swapping a motor in, and none of us could tell ANY difference in wheel hop or how much the motor torqued in the engine bay (the inserts into the stock mounts felt identical).

Just my oppinion anyway...
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamCracka &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You dont need the Hasport mounts. I believe they're around $400-500. The only reason to upgrade to CNC'd mounts is if the ones you plan on using are torn/ripped, which then you can buy motor mount inserts for $30 and you wouldnt be able to tell any difference between the Hasports and the stocks with inserts. A buddy of mine bought Hasports after swapping a motor in, and none of us could tell ANY difference in wheel hop or how much the motor torqued in the engine bay (the inserts into the stock mounts felt identical).
Just my oppinion anyway...</TD></TR></TABLE>

how did u put the car under a load and look under the engine bay pleas explain, revving the car is not a load and will not test the mounts prooperly
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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you can use a combination of your stock mounts and stock integra or si mounts

use obd1 ecu with a jump harness, expensive but easy and safe
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SikCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how did u put the car under a load and look under the engine bay pleas explain, revving the car is not a load and will not test the mounts prooperly</TD></TR></TABLE>

....... dyno .......
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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ok thanx, i would still like to see it, just cant believe it,
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