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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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I was out and about today stopping at various librarys for research BS. Pulling out onto a straight I held 1st @ 5K until I was straight then nailed it. Grabbed 2nd perfectly and the needle went to 8K like I had the clutch in, then came the smell. Its fine for DD and slow shifts, but it won't hold quick, redline shifts. Car only has 15K miles on it, I want something that GRABS damn it. My Si clutch lasted about 30K, but it slipped on hard 1-2,2-3 after only 10K miles or so. Honda clutches are weaksause!
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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I would say unless you have ton of torque Which most hondas don't, make you shoud be fine with a stock clutch.

But if you must have a clutch with some bite try the ACT xt-ss.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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I had 37,000 on my 00 si and have 22,300 on my r and I am not easy on the car and my clutch is fine maybe you got two bad ones?
I mean I can get a chirp in 2nd and 3rd but I dont launch it hard off the line though.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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You guys must drive very hard...
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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dang. i agree. i'm at 55k and its still alright. i don't drive too hard, but... 15k miles? thats hard core.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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When I was screwing off in Melbourne it seemed like every single stop light was a drag race. I can't remember if they had the light sequence like: Green-Yellow-Red-Yellow-Green...if so, I can see how it could end up that way.

I do remember the screwy right hand turn (or was it left hand) around the tram deal.

I was either going to go with Exedy or maybe an Action when it comes time to replace my clutch: bolt ons only...

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys must drive very hard... </TD></TR></TABLE>

The thing is I really don't, I have launched from a stop twice in the month I've owned the car. If I "granny" shift it will grab fine, but not if I shift quickly. Just have to slow the shifts down a tad for now.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Guess it's time to start looking at clutches... (AussieR)

my cusins R clutch went out around 15k but he got it warrantied by the dealer.
mine went out around 18k and i got it warrantied(this is when we first bought it and after 15k-18k miles on our first clutch) by the dealer. but i dont know if he went to the same dealer as i did im thinkking that you have 15k on the chassie and the clutch assuming its a brand new car and this is your first clutch going out. i would try to get it warrantied. if you only have 15k on the clutch and more on the chassie then forget what i said cause im assuming this is ur second clutch and going on the third
but im in a rush so i dont make sence sorry..also i cant spell
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AussieR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I want something that GRABS damn it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cusco/OS Giken Super Single...2800lb clamping force, will hold 400hp.



You might want to check with Mark Bissett at Hypertune in Sydney.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:18 AM
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&lt;---- buying a used OEM clutch to replace the one making noise
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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Default Re: Guess it's time to start looking at clutches... (AussieR)

As all have stated your best bet is just to replace it with a stock oem clutch which has plenty enough force. Unless your making some ungodly horsepower, you dont really need anything aftermarket.

&lt;---Who wishes he would have just kept his stock clutch
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You guys must drive very hard... </TD></TR></TABLE>

My clutch HAS A WHOOPPIN 40k on it now . wow 40k.. crazy

I thought my clutch was going bad after 22k, my tires were so bad i would spin, but couldnt hear it.

I went and got one of these.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Guess it's time to start looking at clutches... (kengs)

i drove a R with a cusco clutch and flywheel and did not like it whatsoever. if i were to upgrade anything, it'd be the flywheel. oem clutch.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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buy an oem itr replacement clutch kit.

i don't know how you guys drive, but i've got 101K on my stock gs-r clutch, with 130 lbs of torque and over 180 to the wheels. 6K launches, chirped in 3rd until 15K ago, and still breaks the tires loose HARD in 2nd. oh yeah, did i mention shifting @ 8400 everyday?

if you treat the clutch well, it will last. my next replacement is gonna be an itr oem.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 11:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would say unless you have ton of torque Which most hondas don't, make you shoud be fine with a stock clutch.

But if you must have a clutch with some bite try the ACT xt-ss.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ACT rocks...grabs like a bitch
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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my friend had an ITR pressure plate with a 6 puck ACT disc in it... grabbed like a beast and lasted very long, even on a 230ft/lb turboed motor! i suggest that if your feeble legs can't take an ACT XTSS.

i've run nothing but ACT in my cars, i had an ACT XTSS with a fidanza 7lb flywheel, very very fun. act xtr6, fun but went out after 10k miles on my turboed LS, now im running another XTSS, grabs just as hard as the day i put it in.

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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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damn if my ACT doesnt last another 60k im going to be one very pissed off ITR owner (I have 6k on it)
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Default Re: Guess it's time to start looking at clutches... (AussieR)

I've been looking at clutches as well. I have almost 65K on the stock clutch, and over 20 runs down the1/4.I think I will be going with stock also..
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by geometro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I was screwing off in Melbourne it seemed like every single stop light was a drag race. I can't remember if they had the light sequence like: Green-Yellow-Red-Yellow-Green...if so, I can see how it could end up that way.

I do remember the screwy right hand turn (or was it left hand) around the tram deal.
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George</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't say the lights in Melbourne are set up for races, but there are some that are sequenced like that. Actually, they've started putting in lights at the freeway on-ramps to "smooth" the entry of traffic. What they do is let the cars come to a stop a hundred or two metres before the freeway and then send them off in quick succession a pair at a time. So basically, you have two cars side by side up to 200m (~1/8 mile) before the freeway with a clear straight road needing to hit 100kmh.

Also, hook turns aren't so bad as long as you remember to sit on the left lane when turning right and just wait for the lights to go red before moving.

Back on topic... I'd go with the OEM clutch. 60+ runs down the 1/4 mile and it still grabs like new. If you're having problems with them after 15,000km then I'd blame driver error; there's something you do to cause this. Perhapys you're sliding the clutch unnecessarily (for too long) during normal daily driving?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Sorry guys, but I'm def not going to replace this clutch w/ another OEM. It's fine for now, just going to stay away from the hard 1-2 shift.

thanx for the reply's!

BTW, melbourne can be a confusing place to drive for those use to LHD.

EDIT: My friends & I have had mustangs, suby's, LS1's, Audi's... and they all had clutches that grabbed and took a beating. My 2 B-Series Honda's both had/have WEAK clutchs. I'm not mario or anything but I can row thru the gears just fine. I'm the 2nd owner, maybe I'm just unlucky. When I drove my mom's Si(B16) awhile back her clutch(original 25K) felt great, 2nd gear chirp even on semi-quick shifts. I dunno...
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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I've been hearing great things about action clutches

anyone have any experiences with them?

I'm checking one out for the JDM itr motor I'm getting
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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How is the Spoon CLutch?
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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ACT HDSS will take care of your needs for daily driving. We're pushing about 300 wtq in my room mates daily driven turbo ITR....clutch holds like crazy after 3 years.

I run this on my "internally stock" D16Z6, and love it.

Easy to ride out, smooth engagement, but grabs like a summambeech when needed

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I had a Spoon clutch/flywheel in my b16.....clutch was very nice. Not as aggrssive as the ACT HDSS, but still a great daily driver/RR/auto-x clutch....
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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jordo is a ******* baller. lol
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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ACT is a great clutch, but i would personally go with the RPS race series clutch, ive had mine for about 6 months and i drive HARD, still grabs like when i first broke it in....


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