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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Default 4.7 or 4.4 final drive

what is the performance difference between the 98-up jdm N3E tranny vs. the 4.4 J4D final drive tranny. i know that the 4th and 5th are gsr ratios on the N3E tranny but what kind of advantages would you gain from having a 98 jdm 4.7fd tranny compared to an 4.4 final..what tranny do you guys prefer for 1/4 mile purposes?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 03:44 AM
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Default Re: 4.7 or 4.4 final drive (zumb18)

well you will gain more torque in the first couple of gears and it revs a bit faster. so 1/4 mile time should be a little better.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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N/A THE 4.7 WILL DO A BIT BETTER. TRY IT OUT GOOD LUCK TIGER
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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I'm after a 4.7FD to install in my GSR trans. I put it in 5th and the whole world slows down.
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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are gsr tranny good for the 1/4 for all motor??/ where at least you got to shift into 4th??? i had a usdm type r which broke and i was going down the track in 4th, but now i put a b16 and i'm going down the track in 3rd... which pisses me off, b/c my 60' is now a 1.9-2.0 before i would pull a 1.7-1.8 so now i have a gsr tranny w/ lsd, will it do better than the b16? or no?
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Old Apr 16, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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Default Re: 4.7 or 4.4 final drive (eg_b20_vtec)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg_b20_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had a usdm type r which broke and i was going down the track in 4th, but now i put a b16 and i'm going down the track in 3rd... which pisses me off, b/c my 60' is now a 1.9-2.0 before i would pull a 1.7-1.8</TD></TR></TABLE>

The USDM ITR and all B16A tranny's have the same gear ratios. Your 60' was probably slower due to the lack of LSD.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The USDM ITR and all B16A tranny's have the same gear ratios. Your 60' was probably slower due to the lack of LSD. </TD></TR></TABLE>

...some people dont realize this fact kendall
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Old May 17, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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4.78 FINAL DRIVES ROCK!! oops


Modified by HOOKUPS at 9:00 PM 5/18/2004
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Old May 17, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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if you have the change to get a 4.7 over the 4.4 def get it omg its worth it in some many ways.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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7.78, damn thats one hell of a final drive!
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Old May 17, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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7.78? Do you use your car as a tow vehicle?

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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Default Re: 4.7 or 4.4 final drive (zumb18)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zumb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is the performance difference between the 98-up jdm N3E tranny vs. the 4.4 J4D final drive tranny. i know that the 4th and 5th are gsr ratios on the N3E tranny but what kind of advantages would you gain from having a 98 jdm 4.7fd tranny compared to an 4.4 final..what tranny do you guys prefer for 1/4 mile purposes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the best combo.. is N3E transmission with J4D 4th Gear... the ratios on the 2 4th gears are different. J4D is a little shorter.. thats what i run in my won race car right now until i can afford a custom gear box.
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Old May 17, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DTRFAB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the best combo.. is N3E transmission with J4D 4th Gear... the ratios on the 2 4th gears are different. J4D is a little shorter.. thats what i run in my won race car right now until i can afford a custom gear box.</TD></TR></TABLE>

makes sense
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Old May 19, 2004 | 01:18 AM
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are all n3e 4.7 cause when i bought mine they said they thought it was a 96 spec?
im not sure i want to put in the 4.7 if i dont have it so please help me out
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Old May 19, 2004 | 04:07 AM
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96 is the 4.4 FD......98+ is 4.786
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Old May 19, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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I would like to ring in on this discussion with a question of my own regarding the 4.7 Final Drive. I am looking at replacing the stock 4.4 Final in my 99 Civic Si with a JDM 4.7 Final and a Quaife LSD at the end of this year (I have other commitments now preventing me to do this in the near future). The car is mainly street driven but does see a few track days now and then. It is N/A and plans are to run a mild setup with cams, pistons, headwork, etc. for a desired goal of 190-200whp (which is currently on hold right now). In researching this I have been wondering about a possible setup I am considering: would the addition of a close ratio 1st gear (the one in mind being a 3.077 from ATS) plus the JDM 4.7 Final and Quaife LSD be too aggressive of a gearing for a mainly street driven car that sees alot of stop and go traffic with some moderate interstate driving? Or would just the 4.7 Final with a Quaife LSD be a more appropriate setup for such a vehicle. Just curious. Thanks.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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i know the 96 is 4.4 but my tranny says n3e not j4d but they told me it was 96 could they be wrong, are all n3e's 4.7? i really dont want to crack the case and count the teeth, thanks.
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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'96 spec tranny with the 4.785 or the ATS 4.929 installed in it, you get better gearing through all of the gears. I'm currently running a UDSM itr tranny with the JDM 4.785 FD, wouldn't want to change the gears unless I went to a 4.929 FD.

Austin
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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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im getting my 4.7 installed tuesday in my gsr tranny with quaife lsd, ill let you know if its worth it or not. but im sure it is
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 06:03 AM
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Default Re: 4.7 or 4.4 final drive (zumb18)

i didnt get any changes in my ETs or 60's when i put in my JDM FD. the only thing it really did was change when i had to shift.
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Old Jun 26, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt get any changes in my ETs or 60's when i put in my JDM FD. the only thing it really did was change when i had to shift.</TD></TR></TABLE>

anyone else have experiences like this?
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 02:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DefiantGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

anyone else have experiences like this? </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is important, guys. theoretically it should help. What was your setup and redline when this happened?
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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my setup
92 CX
gutted weighing in at 1600lbs
B18C1 w/ 11.3:1 CR
JUN 3 cams
bolt ons
195WHP
22/8/15 MT slicks
01 ITR tranny
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Old Jun 27, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Default Re: 4.7 or 4.4 final drive (1 2 NV)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my setup
92 CX
gutted weighing in at 1600lbs
B18C1 w/ 11.3:1 CR
JUN 3 cams
bolt ons
195WHP
22/8/15 MT slicks
01 ITR tranny</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, thanks man. I guess the 4.7 FD is going off my list of important mods.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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just got my car back with the 4.7 installed and all i can say is sick. my car feels stronger and pulls much harder then before. also during shifts it feels much stronger. I am very happy with it
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