Hi guys, I was wondering if it was necessary to install the two bottom bracket that bolts from the bottom of the block to the Flywheel Dust Cover to the Tranny. Do we really need those two bracket?


I will have all five mount in, so I am just wondering if I need the bracket also.

 

i don't have them on any of my 4 engines...


save weight!

 

i dont have them either. If i dont need it its not gonna be there

 

Kool Kool..Just seeing how many people does not have them..

 

I would say keep em... They are there for a reason and that reason is to increase structural rigidity between the motor and trans. I would NEVER remove these. The 1/2 lb you are gonna save in weight isn't worth the headache of trans bolts snapping off in your block, but thats just me...

 

I would keep it as well. If you are worried about saving weight, there are better places to start.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rxse7n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would keep it as well. If you are worried about saving weight, there are better places to start.</TD></TR></TABLE> Yeah what is 1/2 lb or even 1lb gonna give you? Like .0000000000000000000000000001 off your quarter time. I would keep em, as I said, they are there for a reason.,..

 

*EDIT* I read wrong....


Modified by youngkow at 9:13 AM 4/15/2004

 

I would keep them if I had them.. My Swap did not have it along we a shiet load of other stuff... but that's a different stories..

Majestic Honda wanted 25 buck a pieces for them, so I just thought perhaps i can pass by a few months without them until I can afford it.

 

I had the mounts until I went turbo and broke both driver's side mounts at the same time, then I switched to hasport mounts and never put the small mounts back on

 

you need them...

just like how you need dowel pins....sure it's easier to install without, but what's the long term damage.

I guarantee....you put on the bottom brakets, you will see the tranny be pulled in tighter to the engine.

 

anyone have a pic of these? Trying to figure out if I have them or not. Or, just the graphic from Majestic Honda would work, too.

 

use them if you can.
without them you are asking for tranny failure if the tranny flexes too much under load and comes out of axis from the block/crank/flywheel/clutch.... mn its trouble down the line.
you can find these braces for cheap and used, online here.

*actually the ITR and CTR have a <U>cast aluminum one-piece brace </U>that replaces the two L-braces and the dust cover tht are found on the B16,B17,B20 and other B18's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use them if you can.
without them you are asking for tranny failure if the tranny flexes too much under load and comes out of axis from the block/crank/flywheel/clutch.... mn its trouble down the line.
you can find these braces for cheap and used, online here.

*actually the ITR and CTR have a <U>cast aluminum one-piece brace </U>that replaces the two L-braces and the dust cover tht are found on the B16,B17,B20 and other B18's.
</TD></TR></TABLE> I will have to look in to replacing my two brackes with this ITR one you speak of. I work for Acura so I get a nice discount. Do you know if this bracket is on the USDM ITR as well? Thanks!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaFanatic708 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I will have to look in to replacing my two brackes with this ITR one you speak of. I work for Acura so I get a nice discount. Do you know if this bracket is on the USDM ITR as well? Thanks!!</TD></TR></TABLE> sure is (yes its on US itr's)

 

greasemonkey,
This reply is for another one of your threads that you posted for your friend regarding the EK with B16 for sale. I'm on trial status and cannot post on the classifed forum and your e-mail does'nt work.

Please e-mail me at sihuor@yahoo.com and i'll let you/him know my offer.

Thanks,
sihuor

 

not to thread jack but on a related note;
i have a b18 w/b16 tranny the b18 mounts dont line up to both the block and the tranny...has anybody found mounts that work w/this combo...i was thinking of getting the b16 mounts
but dont wanna shell out the cash if they have the same problem.....

 

Hey Frankgrimes, good question. I know this is a common swap..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by frankgrimes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not to thread jack but on a related note;
i have a b18 w/b16 tranny the b18 mounts dont line up to both the block and the tranny...has anybody found mounts that work w/this combo...i was thinking of getting the b16 mounts
</TD></TR></TABLE> huh?
b16 cable tranny or hydro?
describe your problem further, I dont understand exactly what piece does not mate up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*actually the ITR and CTR have a <U>cast aluminum one-piece brace </U>that replaces the two L-braces and the dust cover tht are found on the B16,B17,B20 and other B18's. </TD></TR></TABLE>

is there any advantage to getting this piece?

 

I would assume it is better if it came on the CTR and ITR. If not, Honda would have used the same braces as the rest of them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> huh?
b16 cable tranny or hydro?
describe your problem further, I dont understand exactly what piece does not mate up </TD></TR></TABLE>

96 b18b1 w/ y21 hydro tranny...i was able to get the two tranny stiffeners from the b18b1 for free figuring it didn't matter as long as they cam off a b series, but they dont really fit. the bracket will line up to the bell housing on the tranny or on the block but not both, the bolt holes are about 1/2 inch off (about that its been a little while since i've been under there, so i really dont remember). i was thinking about picking up some 99-00 civ si tranny stiffeners but was afraid i would have the same problem....i know alot of people have this combo so i was curious what people have done...or if they just ditched'em

 

/\/\ hmm, I'm surprised there is a problem, I'd be even more surprised if the bolt patterns were different between B18C and B18/B blocks near the oilpan on the block surface where the stiffneres bolt to. there has never been any mention of it on lsvtec swap info pages like c-speedracing or hybrid.

perhaps you have some non-new-style-B-series pieces?
maybe from a B20A early prelude?
---&gt;stumped....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by owen_the_soyboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">/\/\ hmm, I'm surprised there is a problem, I'd be even more surprised if the bolt patterns were different between B18C and B18/B blocks near the oilpan on the block surface where the stiffneres bolt to. there has never been any mention of it on lsvtec swap info pages like c-speedracing or hybrid.

perhaps you have some non-new-style-B-series pieces?
maybe from a B20A early prelude?
---&gt;stumped....</TD></TR></TABLE>


i suppose its possible that i got some odd ball stiffeners, i did get them at a junk yard no certainties there

as soon as i get my new cat i will be putting a itr header on my si so i'll see how those b16 stiffeners match up to the b18b stiffeners (?) i have and see if those sit any differently....

 

maybe you got ones from a D series?