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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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this civic



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at the track for my first time



this was the best of my two runs ....sorry if its hard to read



heres what the slip says if u cant read it

r/t --- lb3a
60--- 2.907
330--- 7.333
1/8--- 10.909
mph--- 68.98
1000--- 13.921
1/4--- 16.488
mph--- 87.66

what was the problem my launch?...what do i need to improve to lower my 1/4?
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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B16A? Anywho, getting your launch down will help out somewhat. Your 60' is almost ~1 second over what you should be expecting down there, even on street tires. Your 1/8th ET also seems extremely high, did you miss a gear or anything of the sort? You'll get it down I'm sure, it just takes time. Good Luck
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kataku2K3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16A? Anywho, getting your launch down will help out somewhat. Your 60' is almost ~1 second over what you should be expecting down there, even on street tires. Your 1/8th ET also seems extremely high, did you miss a gear or anything of the sort? You'll get it down I'm sure, it just takes time. Good Luck</TD></TR></TABLE>


yeah its just a stock b16a with intake and exhaust, i didnt miss a gear or anything...i scratchd 1st,2nd,3rd and 4th,....is my trap speed ok or too low as well?
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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You definitely need to lower your 60' times. 2.9 tells me that you're spinning like crazy. Launching a little softer will help.


Modified by 1bad-eg at 11:50 AM 4/15/2004
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Yea it too seems a little low. Typically completely stock B16's in EH's around here do easy high 14's (trapping in the 93-95mph range) on street tires. When Brian had his EH like 3 years ago with his B16A (CTR IN cam, ACT clutch, and MT 20x6x14 slicks) he did consistent 13.90's. My other friend Mike (jdmDXrex) had his completely stock B16A (stock airbox, header, with a 2.5" exhaust) a couple years ago and did 14.20's on street tires and on slicks did a 13.62. Granted Mike's Rex is lighter both his and Brian's EH were full interior. Like I said it'll take some time, you'll get it tho. Good Luck
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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i forgot , i had a lot of tools and my sub still in the car , which is about 70 lbs combined ...but i doubt that would help a whlole lot if i took em out, but i will be sure to next time


also i wasnt spinning the tires at all off the launch i think i was just starting a little to soft and riding the clutch a little too much
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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what rpm u launch at?
on the street i launch at 3000 it spinns till 4800 then when vtec hits i have total traction and then i am gone
i know i know street racing is bad but you know you got to pratice some time
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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get those 60 foot times down to 2.0 and expect high 14's
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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the cobra i was racing aginst has a 60 ft time of 2.368 and he ran a 14.496
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Yea, you can't really compare the times tho. The Mustang is going to have a lot more torque midrange and do better there. It's like trying to compare a FI motor to an NA motor.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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but i definitely need work on my 60 ft right?
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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im planning on ordering some azenis...but anyone know if 205-50-15's will fit my 15'' rota circuit 8's?

thanks a lot
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Yea work on getting your 60' down. Personally I would just go with slicks, with a B16 (less torque) everything is going to come from the launch. The harder you can get out of the hole the better off you'll be, that's not going to happen on street tires/drag radials.
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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yes those tires will fit your rotas
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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thanks for the help guys
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:02 AM
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hell with slicks. you don't need them, esp[ecially at your power level. you need to lean a launch technique. i can advise you to not hold the rpms all the way up and drop the clutch(wich i assume is what you are doing hence the 2.9)

even if you roll out like a brisk street launch going wot once rolling you should cut .5 off your 60 ft.

2.9 is horrid. like disgusting. like how the hell did you do that bad. work on it and the time will come down.generally trap remains constant regardless of launch but i have to assume your trap is jacked from the 2.9.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wolfsburg2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hell with slicks. you don't need them, esp[ecially at your power level. you need to lean a launch technique. i can advise you to not hold the rpms all the way up and drop the clutch(wich i assume is what you are doing hence the 2.9)

even if you roll out like a brisk street launch going wot once rolling you should cut .5 off your 60 ft.

2.9 is horrid. like disgusting. like how the hell did you do that bad. work on it and the time will come down.generally trap remains constant regardless of launch but i have to assume your trap is jacked from the 2.9. </TD></TR></TABLE>


with a decent launch what should my 60 be?
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Tho we never run on street tires in general I would think you could get down to the 2.1-2.2 range.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 11:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kataku2K3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea it too seems a little low. Typically completely stock B16's in EH's around here do easy high 14's (trapping in the 93-95mph range) on street tires. When Brian had his EH like 3 years ago with his B16A (CTR IN cam, ACT clutch, and MT 20x6x14 slicks) he did consistent 13.90's. My other friend Mike (jdmDXrex) had his completely stock B16A (stock airbox, header, with a 2.5" exhaust) a couple years ago and did 14.20's on street tires and on slicks did a 13.62. Granted Mike's Rex is lighter both his and Brian's EH were full interior. Like I said it'll take some time, you'll get it tho. Good Luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey was that rex the light blue one??? if so i remember it. if it is the right one didnt it have the exhaust coming out of the side front fender?
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Going from a 2.9 60ft down to a 2.2 will drop your overall ET well over a second. Typically, .5 60ft will equal 1 second at the end of the track.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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i think u might have staged wrong becasue u did not even get a reaction time.

but if the time is correct then u just need to lower your 60 foots.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Going from a 2.9 60ft down to a 2.2 will drop your overall ET well over a second. Typically, .5 60ft will equal 1 second at the end of the track.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsi00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think u might have staged wrong becasue u did not even get a reaction time.

but if the time is correct then u just need to lower your 60 foots.

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yeah....i red lighted that run but my raection time on my first run was .107
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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yeah....i red lighted that run but my raection time on my first run was .107</TD></TR></TABLE>


just lower those 60' then. reaction time doesn't effect e/t.
good luck
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relick! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey was that rex the light blue one??? if so i remember it. if it is the right one didnt it have the exhaust coming out of the side front fender?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, it's actually white and looks pretty much stock even now.
This is Mike's car if you wanna double check...
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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thanks a lot everyone ...ill report back after my next couple of passes
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