anyone daily driving on Apex Pro N1 dampers?
im having hell of a time driving it on public roads. The car is bouncing around everywhere and it doesnt feel as safe as before. By the way, the spring rates it came with is i belive 18k in the front and 8k in the back. So my question is, do any of u guys daily drive with this suspension? If so, what are ur impressions? Oh yeah, let me add, i only have the front ones in at this time. The back setup is sprint springs with tokiko illuminas.
Put the rear set in, see what happens.
Yeah, 18K is going to be bouncy(springy*) in the front. I think the rates are based off of N1 japanese race track specs, not street. Are the rears really *only* 8k? I would think they would be atleast 10-12...
New springs?
Yeah, 18K is going to be bouncy(springy*) in the front. I think the rates are based off of N1 japanese race track specs, not street. Are the rears really *only* 8k? I would think they would be atleast 10-12...
New springs?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D.CACO »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put the rear set in, see what happens.
Yeah, 18K is going to be bouncy(springy*) in the front. I think the rates are based off of N1 japanese race track specs, not street. Are the rears really *only* 8k? I would think they would be atleast 10-12...
New springs?</TD></TR></TABLE>
18k as in 18,000 spring rates shouldn't bounce at all. That is as stiff as concrete.
You sure you don't mean 1800 rates in the front and 800 in the rear ? That would make more sense. Even then, it'll be like driving a 2x4 on the road. There is no give in those because they are made for racing. And race surfaces don't have potholes and uneven surfaces.
Also, do you have a Type R? Or did you change your lower control arms to accomodate for the difference ?
Yeah, 18K is going to be bouncy(springy*) in the front. I think the rates are based off of N1 japanese race track specs, not street. Are the rears really *only* 8k? I would think they would be atleast 10-12...
New springs?</TD></TR></TABLE>
18k as in 18,000 spring rates shouldn't bounce at all. That is as stiff as concrete.
You sure you don't mean 1800 rates in the front and 800 in the rear ? That would make more sense. Even then, it'll be like driving a 2x4 on the road. There is no give in those because they are made for racing. And race surfaces don't have potholes and uneven surfaces.
Also, do you have a Type R? Or did you change your lower control arms to accomodate for the difference ?
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18k as in 18,000 spring rates shouldn't bounce at all. That is as stiff as concrete.
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Which makes them bounce. (A stiff bounce, maybe we have diff definitions of "bounce". Im not meaning "cut springs" bounce)
We have 20k fronts on our TEIN N1's (race only car) and I think these rates are super stiff- cant imagne them on the street, must be uncomfortable. We are going to dial down the rates on our susp, since the car would over-react to almost every surface detail on the track.
18K spring rates on a street car is super overkill IMO. But, obviously, it is driver preference.
18k as in 18,000 spring rates shouldn't bounce at all. That is as stiff as concrete.
QUOTE]
Which makes them bounce. (A stiff bounce, maybe we have diff definitions of "bounce". Im not meaning "cut springs" bounce)
We have 20k fronts on our TEIN N1's (race only car) and I think these rates are super stiff- cant imagne them on the street, must be uncomfortable. We are going to dial down the rates on our susp, since the car would over-react to almost every surface detail on the track.
18K spring rates on a street car is super overkill IMO. But, obviously, it is driver preference.
Yeah, I think we were just defining "bounce" differently. But yes, those kind of springs rates are ludicrous to run on the street. Even when you start to near the 800 mark on springs rates, things tend to get a little rough on everyday roads.
But, like you said, driver preference. I still want to know if he has a Type R or if he is changing lower control arms. Because the N1 damper is produced for the Type R only. And the only way to fit it in the LS/RS and GS-R suspension is to swap parts.
But, like you said, driver preference. I still want to know if he has a Type R or if he is changing lower control arms. Because the N1 damper is produced for the Type R only. And the only way to fit it in the LS/RS and GS-R suspension is to swap parts.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScreaminTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But, like you said, driver preference. I still want to know if he has a Type R or if he is changing lower control arms. Because the N1 damper is produced for the Type R only. And the only way to fit it in the LS/RS and GS-R suspension is to swap parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, THATS RIGHT! You meant the rear LCA's... (I have a GSR and almost considered this exact suspension upgrade). I'm sure he swapped it.
But, like you said, driver preference. I still want to know if he has a Type R or if he is changing lower control arms. Because the N1 damper is produced for the Type R only. And the only way to fit it in the LS/RS and GS-R suspension is to swap parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, THATS RIGHT! You meant the rear LCA's... (I have a GSR and almost considered this exact suspension upgrade). I'm sure he swapped it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScreaminTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
18k as in 18,000 spring rates shouldn't bounce at all. That is as stiff as concrete.
You sure you don't mean 1800 rates in the front and 800 in the rear ? That would make more sense. Even then, it'll be like driving a 2x4 on the road. There is no give in those because they are made for racing. And race surfaces don't have potholes and uneven surfaces.
Also, do you have a Type R? Or did you change your lower control arms to accomodate for the difference ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
im pretty sure its 18,000k instead of 1,800k. Its soooo stiff it hopps instead of bounce. No i do not have a type r, im in the market for the lower control arms right now. thats why i only have the fronts in.
18k as in 18,000 spring rates shouldn't bounce at all. That is as stiff as concrete.
You sure you don't mean 1800 rates in the front and 800 in the rear ? That would make more sense. Even then, it'll be like driving a 2x4 on the road. There is no give in those because they are made for racing. And race surfaces don't have potholes and uneven surfaces.
Also, do you have a Type R? Or did you change your lower control arms to accomodate for the difference ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
im pretty sure its 18,000k instead of 1,800k. Its soooo stiff it hopps instead of bounce. No i do not have a type r, im in the market for the lower control arms right now. thats why i only have the fronts in.
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hopefully ill get the backs in soon. and i will let u know how it feels. If it still sucks, im probably going to change the spring rates to 8k front, and 5k back
have u changed the damper settings?
i just got my set, which way is stiff or soft?
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cant read the jap. instructions
i just got my set, which way is stiff or soft?
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cant read the jap. instructions
i forgot which way is soft and stiff. best way to find out is drive it after ajdusting it all the way to one side. and then drive it again after adjusting it all the way to the other setting. ull feel the stiffness
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