My new project, paint problems *(long)*
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My new project, paint problems *(long)*
Well I've finially got my hands on a crx, something I've been trying to do since I turned 16. When I got the car it was in dire shape, the roof had been cut out by someone wanting to install a removable sunroof 
a lower control arm rusted off the frame and needs to be relocated, the car had been primered grey, had a rusted out hood, the front bumper was 90% gone, and the rear bumper was cracked in about 80 places. So needless to say I picked it up (running and running decently mind you) for 75 bucks, just to cover the cost of the clutch he had just installed.
Hood and Front Bumper
Rear
Torn up roof
So just to get rid of the primer, and to get my neighbors to quit complaining about the trashed car sitting in front of our house, a friend and I spray caned it white, then painted some blue flames on it lol.
Side shot of flames
Hood with flames
Well I came home this weekend from college and started to work on it cause spring is here and I've been bit by the car bug just like every spring. So I tore out the interior (dash, seats, trim panels, and carpet) and I've began working on replacing/repainting most of the parts.
I'm using the technique someone posted on another board I read, with fiberglass, to replace the torn up carpet. It'll be painted white just like the outside of the car (which, don't worry, the outside will be repainted this summer after I get some $$$$$) The rest of the interior pieces are being painted white as well. The dash came out to mold in a tv screen where the pocket normally is.
Dash all torn out
Everythings gone!
Primered Parts
But I've come across a problem while painting. After primering and sanding everything, today the temperature here in Ohio DROPPED. Wanting to get as much done before I headed back up to school, I went ahead and painted a few parts, but there are weird cracks in the paint now. Was this caused from the temp? Maybe bad sanding? Maybe the paint was bad? More importantly is there anyway to get rid of these cracks?
Cracked Paint
Cracked Paint
Sorry for the long post, its the first time I've talked to anyone about my project and I've just come across the paint problems. Thanks for any help you can give me!
Nick
Modified by T25 civic at 5:42 PM 4/13/2004
Modified by T25 civic at 3:35 PM 4/14/2004
a lower control arm rusted off the frame and needs to be relocated, the car had been primered grey, had a rusted out hood, the front bumper was 90% gone, and the rear bumper was cracked in about 80 places. So needless to say I picked it up (running and running decently mind you) for 75 bucks, just to cover the cost of the clutch he had just installed.Hood and Front Bumper
Rear
Torn up roof
So just to get rid of the primer, and to get my neighbors to quit complaining about the trashed car sitting in front of our house, a friend and I spray caned it white, then painted some blue flames on it lol.
Side shot of flames
Hood with flames
Well I came home this weekend from college and started to work on it cause spring is here and I've been bit by the car bug just like every spring. So I tore out the interior (dash, seats, trim panels, and carpet) and I've began working on replacing/repainting most of the parts.
I'm using the technique someone posted on another board I read, with fiberglass, to replace the torn up carpet. It'll be painted white just like the outside of the car (which, don't worry, the outside will be repainted this summer after I get some $$$$$) The rest of the interior pieces are being painted white as well. The dash came out to mold in a tv screen where the pocket normally is.
Dash all torn out
Everythings gone!
Primered Parts
But I've come across a problem while painting. After primering and sanding everything, today the temperature here in Ohio DROPPED. Wanting to get as much done before I headed back up to school, I went ahead and painted a few parts, but there are weird cracks in the paint now. Was this caused from the temp? Maybe bad sanding? Maybe the paint was bad? More importantly is there anyway to get rid of these cracks?
Cracked Paint
Cracked Paint
Sorry for the long post, its the first time I've talked to anyone about my project and I've just come across the paint problems. Thanks for any help you can give me!
Nick
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (JCracer723)
temp def has a lot to due with the way the paint cures. my best advice is dont spend too much money on that thing and get rid of those flames. Write it off as a learning experience. Spend your money on motor, phuc exterior yo
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (JCracer723)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pls tell me u payed 2 bux for that car lol
now to your problem... maybe humidity??
not sure</TD></TR></TABLE>
I paid a total of 25 bucks, the friend that helped me paint paid 25 to learn to drive stick as did my g/f. So I don't feel to bad for paying 25 bucks for a new project car. Something worth working on. It'll be fun!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EH3B18B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">temp def has a lot to due with the way the paint cures. my best advice is dont spend too much money on that thing and get rid of those flames. Write it off as a learning experience. Spend your money on motor, phuc exterior yo</TD></TR></TABLE>
The thing is, the car is going to be completly redone, seeing as I have nothing else to spend my money on, I'm going to completly rebuild the car. The flames are on there to **** the neighbors off. They were complaining about a primered car, so we just threw a 5 minute flame job on there so they couldn't bitch about primer, but to still make it look ghetto. The paint job will eventually come off, but not till the end of the project. The paint job will be the last thing done.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hvy P »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It probably wasn't cleaned good enough in that part.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats another thing I was thinking. Maybe I had some grease on my hands that the tack cloth missed, or maybe some sanding residue still on the part? I'm going to strip the paint off and redue that part.
Thanks for the input, and any other ideas?
Nick
now to your problem... maybe humidity??
not sure</TD></TR></TABLE>I paid a total of 25 bucks, the friend that helped me paint paid 25 to learn to drive stick as did my g/f. So I don't feel to bad for paying 25 bucks for a new project car. Something worth working on. It'll be fun!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EH3B18B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">temp def has a lot to due with the way the paint cures. my best advice is dont spend too much money on that thing and get rid of those flames. Write it off as a learning experience. Spend your money on motor, phuc exterior yo</TD></TR></TABLE>
The thing is, the car is going to be completly redone, seeing as I have nothing else to spend my money on, I'm going to completly rebuild the car. The flames are on there to **** the neighbors off. They were complaining about a primered car, so we just threw a 5 minute flame job on there so they couldn't bitch about primer, but to still make it look ghetto. The paint job will eventually come off, but not till the end of the project. The paint job will be the last thing done.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hvy P »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It probably wasn't cleaned good enough in that part.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats another thing I was thinking. Maybe I had some grease on my hands that the tack cloth missed, or maybe some sanding residue still on the part? I'm going to strip the paint off and redue that part.
Thanks for the input, and any other ideas?
Nick
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (EL Vap133)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EL Vap133 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe your interior does not want to be painted? </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol its a possibility?
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It is a hell of a mess, but it'll be fun cleaning this mess up!
Nick
</TD></TR></TABLE>lol its a possibility?
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It is a hell of a mess, but it'll be fun cleaning this mess up!
Nick
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (T25 civic)
For the paint, don't put some many coats on so fast and don't hold the can so close. It looks to me like you loaded on the paint and did not let it dry enough.
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (90blackcrx)
I also stated this in another post on the resource, but does that look like a Mugen widebody kit on that car. I know it is hard to tell from the pics but I know that the kit did remove the gas door cover and make it a round hole. It does look alot wider and similar to the kit. If only I could find those pics I had of the kit. Anyone have any please post them up.
If that helps anyone.
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If that helps anyone.-James-
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (B18C5crx)
Ya, that is the paint lifting......... Could be that your second coat was done too soon (or not soon enough).... or could be some of what was said above......
IMO..... DON"T SPEND ANOTHER DIME on that car........ Dude, I know you want a Rex to fix up, but that car is toast (because the roof will never be fixed correctly, at the very least). I would say you got yourself a real nice parts car..... now all you have to do is find one to fix up and drive.
Otherwise, read your paint's directions on applying extra coats......
IMO..... DON"T SPEND ANOTHER DIME on that car........ Dude, I know you want a Rex to fix up, but that car is toast (because the roof will never be fixed correctly, at the very least). I would say you got yourself a real nice parts car..... now all you have to do is find one to fix up and drive.
Otherwise, read your paint's directions on applying extra coats......
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (T25 civic)
[QUOTE=T25 civic]
I paid a total of 25 bucks, the friend that helped me paint paid 25 to learn to drive stick as did my g/f. So I don't feel to bad for paying 25 bucks for a new project car. Something worth working on. It'll be fun!
You made your girl pay you to learn to drive a stick? you're a baller
I paid a total of 25 bucks, the friend that helped me paint paid 25 to learn to drive stick as did my g/f. So I don't feel to bad for paying 25 bucks for a new project car. Something worth working on. It'll be fun!
You made your girl pay you to learn to drive a stick? you're a baller
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ya it kinda does look like the Mugen kit....if it is you need to take care of that car!, or atleast those ground effects!!!....or better yet, I'll double your investment and I'll give you 50$ for the car
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (B16_madman)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16_madman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, take the mugen kit off and junk the car, find another ole rex and call it a day</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not going to happen, car is going to be a fun little project. You guys give up to easy. The "kit" *if it is what you say it is* stays on, and the project will continue! Hi-hoo silver away!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnjw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya it kinda does look like the Mugen kit....if it is you need to take care of that car!, or atleast those ground effects!!!....or better yet, I'll double your investment and I'll give you 50$ for the car </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol sorry no sale, and your not the first person to offer to buy it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hehehe I just »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't you think your LCD screen will get wet from the hole in the roof? or is there an invisible forcefield that stops the rain?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No forcefield other than the fact that the roof will be repaired. Don't tell me you think I'm going to leave the car in the state it is now? It'll be alot of work and it'll most definetly be worth it since I'll know I did all the work instead of taking the advice of some people on here, which seems to say "buy something already done up, its easier". No thanks, I'll enjoy working on the car.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aragorn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, that is the paint lifting......... Could be that your second coat was done too soon (or not soon enough).... or could be some of what was said above......
IMO..... DON"T SPEND ANOTHER DIME on that car........ Dude, I know you want a Rex to fix up, but that car is toast (because the roof will never be fixed correctly, at the very least). I would say you got yourself a real nice parts car..... now all you have to do is find one to fix up and drive.
Otherwise, read your paint's directions on applying extra coats...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
The paint was applied in two coats, can was about 12-18 inches from the part, and the coats were 15 minutes apart, and sitting in a 85 degree garage after being sprayed outside. Basically according to the can's directions.
And second, what makes you think the roof will never be fixed correctly? I've worked at an auto shop for 3.5 years, and I've seen worse damage on cars being repaird in our bodyshop. And if it comes down to it, I could take it there and probably pay 20 bucks for the metal and whatever misc. costs and have it done professionally for under 50 bucks.
I honestly don't see why everyone on honda-tech is so afraid of a little work with a car. So what if I could find a car in better shape than this one? So what if it'll be alot of work and you guys don't think its worth it? There is nothing wrong with this car that a little attention couldn't fix. By the end of this summer I hope to have that thing sparkling, then I'm going to show you it wasn't to much work lol.
I feel like I'm giving a speach before heading into battle 
Nick
Not going to happen, car is going to be a fun little project. You guys give up to easy. The "kit" *if it is what you say it is* stays on, and the project will continue! Hi-hoo silver away!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by johnjw »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya it kinda does look like the Mugen kit....if it is you need to take care of that car!, or atleast those ground effects!!!....or better yet, I'll double your investment and I'll give you 50$ for the car </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol sorry no sale, and your not the first person to offer to buy it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hehehe I just »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't you think your LCD screen will get wet from the hole in the roof? or is there an invisible forcefield that stops the rain?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No forcefield other than the fact that the roof will be repaired. Don't tell me you think I'm going to leave the car in the state it is now? It'll be alot of work and it'll most definetly be worth it since I'll know I did all the work instead of taking the advice of some people on here, which seems to say "buy something already done up, its easier". No thanks, I'll enjoy working on the car.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aragorn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, that is the paint lifting......... Could be that your second coat was done too soon (or not soon enough).... or could be some of what was said above......
IMO..... DON"T SPEND ANOTHER DIME on that car........ Dude, I know you want a Rex to fix up, but that car is toast (because the roof will never be fixed correctly, at the very least). I would say you got yourself a real nice parts car..... now all you have to do is find one to fix up and drive.
Otherwise, read your paint's directions on applying extra coats...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
The paint was applied in two coats, can was about 12-18 inches from the part, and the coats were 15 minutes apart, and sitting in a 85 degree garage after being sprayed outside. Basically according to the can's directions.
And second, what makes you think the roof will never be fixed correctly? I've worked at an auto shop for 3.5 years, and I've seen worse damage on cars being repaird in our bodyshop. And if it comes down to it, I could take it there and probably pay 20 bucks for the metal and whatever misc. costs and have it done professionally for under 50 bucks.
I honestly don't see why everyone on honda-tech is so afraid of a little work with a car. So what if I could find a car in better shape than this one? So what if it'll be alot of work and you guys don't think its worth it? There is nothing wrong with this car that a little attention couldn't fix. By the end of this summer I hope to have that thing sparkling, then I'm going to show you it wasn't to much work lol.
I feel like I'm giving a speach before heading into battle
Nick
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (T25 civic)
Well, you got me on the paint. It sounds like you did everything correctly.... maybe there was some oil or grease on the surface?
As for work... I'm not at all afraid of it, I have my whole Rex apart right now..... repainting everything underneath and inside the engine bay:
The difference is I started with this:
Hey, I really do wish you the best of luck..... I just think some cars are too far gone to warrant the time needed.... But if you have a in at the body shop (or have a Mig welder and more skills than I)..... fantastic......
As for work... I'm not at all afraid of it, I have my whole Rex apart right now..... repainting everything underneath and inside the engine bay:
The difference is I started with this:
Hey, I really do wish you the best of luck..... I just think some cars are too far gone to warrant the time needed.... But if you have a in at the body shop (or have a Mig welder and more skills than I)..... fantastic......
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (Aragorn)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aragorn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, you got me on the paint. It sounds like you did everything correctly.... maybe there was some oil or grease on the surface?
As for work... I'm not at all afraid of it, I have my whole Rex apart right now..... repainting everything underneath and inside the engine bay.
Hey, I really do wish you the best of luck..... I just think some cars are too far gone to warrant the time needed.... But if you have a in at the body shop (or have a Mig welder and more skills than I)..... fantastic...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn, you got that all torn apart lol.
Sorry wasn't trying to make my post sound like an attack, I realize the car is fuxored but I'm sorta (at least right now) excited about the challenge. Ever since I've worked in my shop and watched the body guys repair cars worse than mine I've wanted to learn. I'm no genious (obviously look at the paint problems) but I still feel its not quite a lost cause.
I do have a body shop I could take my car to, do 90% of the work and pay 10% of the costs lol. And I'm really not that bad with a welder either. So it should be fun, or at the very least a learning experience.
And if it doesn't work out, at least I have a mugen body kit! lol 
Nick
As for work... I'm not at all afraid of it, I have my whole Rex apart right now..... repainting everything underneath and inside the engine bay.
Hey, I really do wish you the best of luck..... I just think some cars are too far gone to warrant the time needed.... But if you have a in at the body shop (or have a Mig welder and more skills than I)..... fantastic...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn, you got that all torn apart lol.
Sorry wasn't trying to make my post sound like an attack, I realize the car is fuxored but I'm sorta (at least right now) excited about the challenge. Ever since I've worked in my shop and watched the body guys repair cars worse than mine I've wanted to learn. I'm no genious (obviously look at the paint problems) but I still feel its not quite a lost cause.
I do have a body shop I could take my car to, do 90% of the work and pay 10% of the costs lol. And I'm really not that bad with a welder either. So it should be fun, or at the very least a learning experience.
And if it doesn't work out, at least I have a mugen body kit! lol
Nick
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (T25 civic)
preach it brother
/\ Good gosh, that's sweet. I don't think I'm going to have the time, or money to tear my car THAT apart this summer for paint.
/\ Good gosh, that's sweet. I don't think I'm going to have the time, or money to tear my car THAT apart this summer for paint.
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dude i know you are all gung-ho about the car but in all seriousness junk it dude. that roof will never be fixed correctly. if you would have spent 200 bucks on a project car and not 75 or w/e you wouldnt have to put a new roof in it. thats just my opinion and what do i know im only a certified auto body technician 
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (xfrankx)
http://www.ohiohondas.com
Check it out, meet some people around Columbus.......they will be more than willing to help you out.
Check it out, meet some people around Columbus.......they will be more than willing to help you out.
Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (kshymkiw83)
dude seriously get another crx. you can get a 88-91 shell for 200-300 bux if you look. youl realize it later that you just wasted soo much time and money. good luck
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xfrankx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude i know you are all gung-ho about the car but in all seriousness junk it dude. that roof will never be fixed correctly. if you would have spent 200 bucks on a project car and not 75 or w/e you wouldnt have to put a new roof in it. thats just my opinion and what do i know im only a certified auto body technician </TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't looked into fixing it yet. So your saying as a body tech it is impossible/improbable to fix? Or are you saying its not worth the money to fix it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kshymkiw83 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.ohiohondas.com
Check it out, meet some people around Columbus.......they will be more than willing to help you out. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I used to be a memeber of that site when it still had columbus in its name (I'm pretty sure its the same site) Does Rashy still run it?
I'm located in a city just outside columbus, so technically I'm not from Columbus.
Nick
</TD></TR></TABLE>I haven't looked into fixing it yet. So your saying as a body tech it is impossible/improbable to fix? Or are you saying its not worth the money to fix it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kshymkiw83 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.ohiohondas.com
Check it out, meet some people around Columbus.......they will be more than willing to help you out. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I used to be a memeber of that site when it still had columbus in its name (I'm pretty sure its the same site) Does Rashy still run it?
I'm located in a city just outside columbus, so technically I'm not from Columbus.
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Re: My new project, paint problems *(long)* (T25 civic)
what kind of rattle paint were you using?
back in my rattle can kick *** interior job i had the same problem. the problem with mine was the fact that there was still a Armor All, Black Magic residue all over the plastic pieces i was painting. that will cause that to happen. After i stripped the paint down to plastic again and sanded the plastic really good i painted again and it stuck perfect.
on another car i sent the plastic parts out to be painted at a local body shop after i sanded the plastic down again... when i got them back it looked like that again! i was told i didn't sand enough and the armor all or black magic struck again. once again i sanded and painted...it worked out fine.
even if it doesn't look like there is any residue most likely there is.
that will also happen when you over spray your parts. painting takes a lot of time.
back in my rattle can kick *** interior job i had the same problem. the problem with mine was the fact that there was still a Armor All, Black Magic residue all over the plastic pieces i was painting. that will cause that to happen. After i stripped the paint down to plastic again and sanded the plastic really good i painted again and it stuck perfect.
on another car i sent the plastic parts out to be painted at a local body shop after i sanded the plastic down again... when i got them back it looked like that again! i was told i didn't sand enough and the armor all or black magic struck again. once again i sanded and painted...it worked out fine.
even if it doesn't look like there is any residue most likely there is.
that will also happen when you over spray your parts. painting takes a lot of time.