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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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just got my lude about a month ago. 2001 black base model. All stock engine wise with neuspeed sport springs, and konig imagine 17s w/ toyo proxies.
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9.917 @ 71.98 mph
2.352 60 ft
this is in the 1/8 of course...

i'm ordering a cheap cai tonight and a K&N filter to go w/it....just want to get my time down a little more... i read pulling off the power steering belt helps some. How would i do that? also next time i'm going to take out my back seats and the spare and such...
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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If you really want to get your time down some more, you should probly hit the track a few more times. 9.91 is a little slow. I ran a 9.82 in my bone stock 92 si (non vtec). Just practice some more and you should squeeze some more time out of it.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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i only ran 2 times we have so many damn bikes that run at our track that every time you go it is a 30min wait. the first was a 10.1 or sumthin... it was in the afternoon also so it was about 75 degrees

i just wana know how to get the power steering off...
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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That sux. Just use the search button. Always do that before you post cause people will get mad. Here is one, it might help. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=700300
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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thanks man...i guess i just need a pic of where the tensioner is or an explanation so i can get it off...i searched the other day and looked at that, and it didn't really do alot for me.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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you dont need to take the whole power steering unit off you can just take the belt off and gain a lot of power. just unscrew like 2 bolts and it slips right off. takes about 2 mins.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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what 2 bolts though?
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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taking the power steering off is pointless. I use to have the powersteering assembly off of my h22, i added it now...no difference. They are designed not to take away horse power, especially in the 5th gens. And the cheap shorty intake will not help much either...buy an AEM CAI if you want to make a difference.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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i was going to get like one of the ebay ones and then throw a K&N on it....i had read somewhere that it was all the same...

would it be better to do that or to get a muffer and do piping....if i do the muffler what size piping should i go with?
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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ok taking the power steering off isn't pointless. they're are only 2 belts on your crank pulley. one of them is your ac/crank the other is your power steering. now if you take off the belt for power steering it gives you power simply because your motors hp produced doesn't have to pull the power steering unit any more. now the ac and crank are one belt all in itself so in order to gain power that way i think you have to remove the whole ac unit.

oh yeah and injen intakes are better than aem. injen all the way.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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the crank does not have to pull the powersteering pump. once the pump gets moving, the fluid will push the pump, freeing the crank of power. The gains are roughly 2 hp by cutting or removing the belt. The main reason people take all that stuff off is to remove weight. but hey, whatever floats your boat...just giving you some advice from someone who has already tried it. As for intakes, they are not all the same. A short ram will simply just suck in hot air into the intake...helping it...ummmm...none! As where the cold air actually stick outside of the engine bay and is"rammed" by cold air from outside. Buy at catback...replacing the piping if you just put on a muffler would be fine. Injen intakes are not better. You can look at any dyno result and prove that...however...they are very good and i would recommend them. Plus they look very nice!
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmlude_dude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the crank does not have to pull the powersteering pump. once the pump gets moving, the fluid will push the pump, freeing the crank of power. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't get this. How can the fluid flow and push the pump?? Isn't that what the PUMP is for, to PUMP the fluid?? Fluid can't flow without being pumped or without the use of energy.

Please clarify. I am confused
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I don't get this. How can the fluid flow and push the pump?? Isn't that what the PUMP is for, to PUMP the fluid?? Fluid can't flow without being pumped or without the use of energy.

Please clarify. I am confused </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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OK this is getting some what off topic, but anyways, the 17" wheels are not helping you, you should run with atleast 16" wheels and something more sticky like Falken Azenis or better yet, BFG drag radials. Also, first I would get a CAI intake, I would recommend an AEM or Injen since they have dynos and have been proven to work compared to the generic ones.
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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what happens with the power steering pump, it is hydraulically controlled which means that it is run by pressure. The crank simply gets it started and keeps it moving. That is why when you are sitting still and turn your wheel, your idle will drop cause the fluid is needing extra push to push the fluid. When you pick up speed the hydraulic pressure inside the lines will actually push itself. And as long as you are in a straight line, the pump has nothing to do, so no reason to drag the harmonic balancer. So in a way the turning by the belt on the pump isn't what pushed the pump most of the time. If you ever take the pump without a belt on it while the pump is hooked to everything on the car and begin spinning it, you will notice that it is hard to spin on the first rotation and then it will free up. It is hard to explain how the full system works, but I had to do a full presentation on it in Auto-Diesel College.
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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WTF my best was a 10.1 on an 1/8 and i have catback n1 and shortram intake and took out a lot of the interior and CF hood this is on my 5th gen 98 why am i much more slower than u guys?
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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yeah take the belt off you will gain power. when i got my cai that gave me a good amount of power and i can honestly say taking my power steering belt off gave me just as much power if not more. so if you look at it that way it's a free 200 dollar mod for the hp it gives you. and if you have a pulley it helps even more with it off. i have an unorthodox pulley and it helps so much with it off regardless of what other people might tell you.
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