whats the best tranny for ls motor....?
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Re: whats the best tranny for ls motor....? (XSIintegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XSIintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">need more info on you setup..or what you plan to do</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (silverb18)
This topic has been discussed heavily.
The 3rd and 4th LS gears are extremely long. GSR tranny is probably IDEAL for a turbo setup, its got better acceleration and closer gear ratios. The B16 or ITR gears are more of an all motor tranny. The gearing is extremely close and would suck on the highway.
I suggest a GSR tranny
The 3rd and 4th LS gears are extremely long. GSR tranny is probably IDEAL for a turbo setup, its got better acceleration and closer gear ratios. The B16 or ITR gears are more of an all motor tranny. The gearing is extremely close and would suck on the highway.
I suggest a GSR tranny
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18bEK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with boost those tranny's will suck on the highway. i think the GSR tranny is a great tranny for LS turbo setups </TD></TR></TABLE>
b16 trannies IMO suck ***** on turbod LS motors. gsr gets my vote
</TD></TR></TABLE> b16 trannies IMO suck ***** on turbod LS motors. gsr gets my vote
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Re: (silverb18)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silverb18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just use the stock LS tranny, it's great for boost and daily driving.....plus, it's factory.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ummm last time i check'd all the other trannies being discussed are from the factory
just from experience .. LS turbo w/ LS tranny sucks *****, LS turbo w/ GSR tranny owns 
ummm last time i check'd all the other trannies being discussed are from the factory
just from experience .. LS turbo w/ LS tranny sucks *****, LS turbo w/ GSR tranny owns
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by patdemps »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This topic has been discussed heavily.
The 3rd and 4th LS gears are extremely long. GSR tranny is probably IDEAL for a turbo setup, its got better acceleration and closer gear ratios. The B16 or ITR gears are more of an all motor tranny. The gearing is extremely close and would suck on the highway.
I suggest a GSR tranny </TD></TR></TABLE>
smart! this guy knows his ****. do it right the 1st time and get that GSR tranny
The 3rd and 4th LS gears are extremely long. GSR tranny is probably IDEAL for a turbo setup, its got better acceleration and closer gear ratios. The B16 or ITR gears are more of an all motor tranny. The gearing is extremely close and would suck on the highway.
I suggest a GSR tranny
</TD></TR></TABLE>smart! this guy knows his ****. do it right the 1st time and get that GSR tranny
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Re: (B18bEK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18bEK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
ummm last time i check'd all the other trannies being discussed are from the factory just from experience .. LS turbo w/ LS tranny sucks *****, LS turbo w/ GSR tranny owns </TD></TR></TABLE>
For anything below 15psi, I'd say GSR tranny. Above that, I like the LS because it gives me better traction on the street. With the b18c tranny the only gear I could keep traction in was 5th....not much fun.
ummm last time i check'd all the other trannies being discussed are from the factory
just from experience .. LS turbo w/ LS tranny sucks *****, LS turbo w/ GSR tranny owns </TD></TR></TABLE>For anything below 15psi, I'd say GSR tranny. Above that, I like the LS because it gives me better traction on the street. With the b18c tranny the only gear I could keep traction in was 5th....not much fun.
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Re: (PureTeg420)
ok.
shorter gearing on the highway, sucks?
ok.
well.
most likely a highway run will consist of 80-140. max.
type r tranny's are well in the range of pulling off 140mph.
from 60-120..
who will get to 120mph FIRST..
the LS with the ITR tranny? or the LS with it's stock OR GSR tranny?
of course the answer's inevitable..
there fore who will get to 140mph FIRST?
it's not about your top speed.
it's who get's to that point FIRST.
go with the ITR tranny for any application.
build the valvetrain and raise the redline for a higher top speed.
shouldnt be going that fast anyway
shorter gearing on the highway, sucks?
ok.
well.
most likely a highway run will consist of 80-140. max.
type r tranny's are well in the range of pulling off 140mph.
from 60-120..
who will get to 120mph FIRST..
the LS with the ITR tranny? or the LS with it's stock OR GSR tranny?
of course the answer's inevitable..
there fore who will get to 140mph FIRST?
it's not about your top speed.
it's who get's to that point FIRST.
go with the ITR tranny for any application.
build the valvetrain and raise the redline for a higher top speed.
shouldnt be going that fast anyway
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Re: (loud_whispers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loud_whispers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok.
shorter gearing on the highway, sucks?
ok.
well.
most likely a highway run will consist of 80-140. max.
type r tranny's are well in the range of pulling off 140mph.
from 60-120..
who will get to 120mph FIRST..
the LS with the ITR tranny? or the LS with it's stock OR GSR tranny?
of course the answer's inevitable..
there fore who will get to 140mph FIRST?
it's not about your top speed.
it's who get's to that point FIRST.
go with the ITR tranny for any application.
build the valvetrain and raise the redline for a higher top speed.
shouldnt be going that fast anyway</TD></TR></TABLE>
The point isn't who will accelerate faster, because obviously the shorter gearing will win. It's more about not driving down the freeway at 5k rpm because you have to bring the revs up to get any power out of the motor. I have a gs-r tranny on my b16 and IMO it's a nice match. Although compared to my truck (cruising at about 1,800rpm down the freeway compared to about 3,500rpm in th civic) the civic runs high.
shorter gearing on the highway, sucks?
ok.
well.
most likely a highway run will consist of 80-140. max.
type r tranny's are well in the range of pulling off 140mph.
from 60-120..
who will get to 120mph FIRST..
the LS with the ITR tranny? or the LS with it's stock OR GSR tranny?
of course the answer's inevitable..
there fore who will get to 140mph FIRST?
it's not about your top speed.
it's who get's to that point FIRST.
go with the ITR tranny for any application.
build the valvetrain and raise the redline for a higher top speed.
shouldnt be going that fast anyway
</TD></TR></TABLE>The point isn't who will accelerate faster, because obviously the shorter gearing will win. It's more about not driving down the freeway at 5k rpm because you have to bring the revs up to get any power out of the motor. I have a gs-r tranny on my b16 and IMO it's a nice match. Although compared to my truck (cruising at about 1,800rpm down the freeway compared to about 3,500rpm in th civic) the civic runs high.
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Re: (b16ahybrid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16ahybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The point isn't who will accelerate faster, because obviously the shorter gearing will win. It's more about not driving down the freeway at 5k rpm because you have to bring the revs up to get any power out of the motor. I have a gs-r tranny on my b16 and IMO it's a nice match. Although compared to my truck (cruising at about 1,800rpm down the freeway compared to about 3,500rpm in th civic) the civic runs high.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was speaking in reference to which is better "performance wise".
Not cruising..
That's what im assuming this guy is talking about.
and what is the actual point of your post?
and why isnt it a point to accelerate faster?
what are you supposed to decelerate faster?
cmon man, be more specific if you want to debate with me.
BTW, i have a type r tranny on my LS.. cruising in 5th gear on the highway is a breeze..very smoothe, it DOES NOT reduce gas mileage, it does not stress the tranny and the power is always there when you need it.. Oppose to the LS tranny @60mph you have to drop it in 4th to get power otherwise it's a dog. Just mash the gas @60 with the ITR tranny and off you go.
The point isn't who will accelerate faster, because obviously the shorter gearing will win. It's more about not driving down the freeway at 5k rpm because you have to bring the revs up to get any power out of the motor. I have a gs-r tranny on my b16 and IMO it's a nice match. Although compared to my truck (cruising at about 1,800rpm down the freeway compared to about 3,500rpm in th civic) the civic runs high.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was speaking in reference to which is better "performance wise".
Not cruising..
That's what im assuming this guy is talking about.
and what is the actual point of your post?
and why isnt it a point to accelerate faster?
what are you supposed to decelerate faster?
cmon man, be more specific if you want to debate with me.
BTW, i have a type r tranny on my LS.. cruising in 5th gear on the highway is a breeze..very smoothe, it DOES NOT reduce gas mileage, it does not stress the tranny and the power is always there when you need it.. Oppose to the LS tranny @60mph you have to drop it in 4th to get power otherwise it's a dog. Just mash the gas @60 with the ITR tranny and off you go.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loud_whispers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was speaking in reference to which is better "performance wise".
Not cruising..
That's what im assuming this guy is talking about.
and what is the actual point of your post?
and why isnt it a point to accelerate faster?
what are you supposed to decelerate faster?
cmon man, be more specific if you want to debate with me.
BTW, i have a type r tranny on my LS.. cruising in 5th gear on the highway is a breeze..very smoothe, it DOES NOT reduce gas mileage, it does not stress the tranny and the power is always there when you need it.. Oppose to the LS tranny @60mph you have to drop it in 4th to get power otherwise it's a dog. Just mash the gas @60 with the ITR tranny and off you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bullshit dude. you don't get the same gas mileage revving your motor at 4.5k+ rpm just to go 80mph. you motor is working harder to maintain higher speeds, therefore you get less gas mileage. i have a gsr tranny w/quaife and even i noticed the drop in gas mileage. please don't be giving out false info!
i was speaking in reference to which is better "performance wise".
Not cruising..
That's what im assuming this guy is talking about.
and what is the actual point of your post?
and why isnt it a point to accelerate faster?
what are you supposed to decelerate faster?
cmon man, be more specific if you want to debate with me.
BTW, i have a type r tranny on my LS.. cruising in 5th gear on the highway is a breeze..very smoothe, it DOES NOT reduce gas mileage, it does not stress the tranny and the power is always there when you need it.. Oppose to the LS tranny @60mph you have to drop it in 4th to get power otherwise it's a dog. Just mash the gas @60 with the ITR tranny and off you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Bullshit dude. you don't get the same gas mileage revving your motor at 4.5k+ rpm just to go 80mph. you motor is working harder to maintain higher speeds, therefore you get less gas mileage. i have a gsr tranny w/quaife and even i noticed the drop in gas mileage. please don't be giving out false info!
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Re: (loud_whispers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loud_whispers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from 60-120..
who will get to 120mph FIRST..
the LS with the ITR tranny? or the LS with it's stock OR GSR tranny?
of course the answer's inevitable..
there fore who will get to 140mph FIRST?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Assuming that not everyone has the money to build their engine for a raised redline, the LS with an ITR transmission wont even get close to 140mph. My guess is that it will top out around 120.
who will get to 120mph FIRST..
the LS with the ITR tranny? or the LS with it's stock OR GSR tranny?
of course the answer's inevitable..
there fore who will get to 140mph FIRST?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Assuming that not everyone has the money to build their engine for a raised redline, the LS with an ITR transmission wont even get close to 140mph. My guess is that it will top out around 120.
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Re: (loud_whispers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loud_whispers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i was speaking in reference to which is better "performance wise".
Not cruising..
That's what im assuming this guy is talking about.
and what is the actual point of your post?
and why isnt it a point to accelerate faster?
what are you supposed to decelerate faster?
cmon man, be more specific if you want to debate with me.
BTW, i have a type r tranny on my LS.. cruising in 5th gear on the highway is a breeze..very smoothe, it DOES NOT reduce gas mileage, it does not stress the tranny and the power is always there when you need it.. Oppose to the LS tranny @60mph you have to drop it in 4th to get power otherwise it's a dog. Just mash the gas @60 with the ITR tranny and off you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
First off I'm not trying to debate anything with you I was just pointing out that most people choose the gsr tranny over the type r tranny due to the higher rpm at freeway speeds.
Performance wise there is NO debate shorter gearing = faster acceleration. PERIOD.
Most people drive their cars daily and want a compromise between all out performance and fuel economy. Now I know there are ways around the higher rpm of the type r tranny like tire size but then you've just increased your gearing.
I personally have a gs-r tranny and for most i think it would be a good daily driven choice with 205/40/17's, but I don't drive my car but to and from the track.
If I found someone that wanted to trade my gs-r for their type r tranny I would do it in a heart beat.
i was speaking in reference to which is better "performance wise".
Not cruising..
That's what im assuming this guy is talking about.
and what is the actual point of your post?
and why isnt it a point to accelerate faster?
what are you supposed to decelerate faster?
cmon man, be more specific if you want to debate with me.
BTW, i have a type r tranny on my LS.. cruising in 5th gear on the highway is a breeze..very smoothe, it DOES NOT reduce gas mileage, it does not stress the tranny and the power is always there when you need it.. Oppose to the LS tranny @60mph you have to drop it in 4th to get power otherwise it's a dog. Just mash the gas @60 with the ITR tranny and off you go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
First off I'm not trying to debate anything with you I was just pointing out that most people choose the gsr tranny over the type r tranny due to the higher rpm at freeway speeds.
Performance wise there is NO debate shorter gearing = faster acceleration. PERIOD.
Most people drive their cars daily and want a compromise between all out performance and fuel economy. Now I know there are ways around the higher rpm of the type r tranny like tire size but then you've just increased your gearing.
I personally have a gs-r tranny and for most i think it would be a good daily driven choice with 205/40/17's, but I don't drive my car but to and from the track.
If I found someone that wanted to trade my gs-r for their type r tranny I would do it in a heart beat.
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Re: (shermanyang)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shermanyang »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Bullshit dude. you don't get the same gas mileage revving your motor at 4.5k+ rpm just to go 80mph. you motor is working harder to maintain higher speeds, therefore you get less gas mileage. i have a gsr tranny w/quaife and even i noticed the drop in gas mileage. please don't be giving out false info!</TD></TR></TABLE>
false info?
it's factual..i have not noticed anything whatsoever in gas mpg reduction. Your telling me im lying?
i keep up on my scheduled maintenence, i do everything myself.
I notice absolutely no drop in gas mileage.
i get to work everyday on the same amount of gas as i did before.
maybe you have a clogged fuel filter or a clogged *** from dudes sticking it to you..i don't know, but thats your personal issues.
your telling me a Type R gets less gas mileage than an LS?
all it is is shorter gearing. SAME LSMOTOR! accelerating at high rpm's will reduce your gas mileage. Stop and go, will reduce your gas mileage. but maintaining a constant speed will not. No matter what tranny and how short the gearing is. YOU STOP SPREADING FALSE INFO, *** WARRIOR!
Modified by loud_whispers at 11:55 PM 4/10/2004
Bullshit dude. you don't get the same gas mileage revving your motor at 4.5k+ rpm just to go 80mph. you motor is working harder to maintain higher speeds, therefore you get less gas mileage. i have a gsr tranny w/quaife and even i noticed the drop in gas mileage. please don't be giving out false info!</TD></TR></TABLE>
false info?
it's factual..i have not noticed anything whatsoever in gas mpg reduction. Your telling me im lying?
i keep up on my scheduled maintenence, i do everything myself.
I notice absolutely no drop in gas mileage.
i get to work everyday on the same amount of gas as i did before.
maybe you have a clogged fuel filter or a clogged *** from dudes sticking it to you..i don't know, but thats your personal issues.
your telling me a Type R gets less gas mileage than an LS?
all it is is shorter gearing. SAME LSMOTOR! accelerating at high rpm's will reduce your gas mileage. Stop and go, will reduce your gas mileage. but maintaining a constant speed will not. No matter what tranny and how short the gearing is. YOU STOP SPREADING FALSE INFO, *** WARRIOR!
Modified by loud_whispers at 11:55 PM 4/10/2004
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Re: (SoulSurfer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SoulSurfer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Assuming that not everyone has the money to build their engine for a raised redline, the LS with an ITR transmission wont even get close to 140mph. My guess is that it will top out around 120.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually it tops out at around 129.
But this guys motor will be boosted..
so ofcourse there will be a hell of alot more power to spare..
Assuming that not everyone has the money to build their engine for a raised redline, the LS with an ITR transmission wont even get close to 140mph. My guess is that it will top out around 120.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually it tops out at around 129.
But this guys motor will be boosted..
so ofcourse there will be a hell of alot more power to spare..
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Re: (loud_whispers)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by loud_whispers »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
actually it tops out at around 129.
But this guys motor will be boosted..
so ofcourse there will be a hell of alot more power to spare..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Being boosted will not raise the redline. I'm saying that he will probably hit 6800 rpm by the time he gets to 120mph.
actually it tops out at around 129.
But this guys motor will be boosted..
so ofcourse there will be a hell of alot more power to spare..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Being boosted will not raise the redline. I'm saying that he will probably hit 6800 rpm by the time he gets to 120mph.
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Re: (b16ahybrid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16ahybrid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
First off I'm not trying to debate anything with you I was just pointing out that most people choose the gsr tranny over the type r tranny due to the higher rpm at freeway speeds.
Performance wise there is NO debate shorter gearing = faster acceleration. PERIOD.
Most people drive their cars daily and want a compromise between all out performance and fuel economy. Now I know there are ways around the higher rpm of the type r tranny like tire size but then you've just increased your gearing.
I personally have a gs-r tranny and for most i think it would be a good daily driven choice with 205/40/17's, but I don't drive my car but to and from the track.
If I found someone that wanted to trade my gs-r for their type r tranny I would do it in a heart beat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
good reply !
i agree with you. GSR transmissions are great. Type R is better. In all aspects and in all applications(turbo or N/A) for ANY b-series motor. Im not going to say that statement as a fact, but an opinion.
i've driven 3 LS's with 3 different transmissions.
Nothing compares to the ITR tranny.
First off I'm not trying to debate anything with you I was just pointing out that most people choose the gsr tranny over the type r tranny due to the higher rpm at freeway speeds.
Performance wise there is NO debate shorter gearing = faster acceleration. PERIOD.
Most people drive their cars daily and want a compromise between all out performance and fuel economy. Now I know there are ways around the higher rpm of the type r tranny like tire size but then you've just increased your gearing.
I personally have a gs-r tranny and for most i think it would be a good daily driven choice with 205/40/17's, but I don't drive my car but to and from the track.
If I found someone that wanted to trade my gs-r for their type r tranny I would do it in a heart beat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
good reply !
i agree with you. GSR transmissions are great. Type R is better. In all aspects and in all applications(turbo or N/A) for ANY b-series motor. Im not going to say that statement as a fact, but an opinion.
i've driven 3 LS's with 3 different transmissions.
Nothing compares to the ITR tranny.
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Re: (loud_whispers)
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false info?
it's factual..i have not noticed anything whatsoever in gas mpg reduction. Your telling me im lying?
i keep up on my scheduled maintenence, i do everything myself.
I notice absolutely no drop in gas mileage.
i get to work everyday on the same amount of gas as i did before.
maybe you have a clogged fuel filter or a clogged *** from dudes sticking it to you..i don't know, but thats your personal issues.
your telling me a Type R gets less gas mileage than an LS?
all it is is shorter gearing. SAME MOTOR! accelerating at high rpm's will reduce your gas mileage. Stop and go, will reduce your gas mileage. but maintaining a constant speed will not. No matter what tranny and how short the gearing is. YOU STOP SPREADING FALSE INFO, *** WARRIOR!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your tell me its the same motor? I could have sworn the LS made around 140hp from the factory and the ITR (b18c5) made around 195hp from the factory. One has VTEC the other doesn't. One is the fast, the other isn't. The c5 has more compression then the LS. But yeah I would say they are the same engine.
I think most of the debate is do people want to drive around at 4.5k at 70mph on the highway. Well i've been there. I just sold my 4.785 FD, Kaaz LSD ITR tranny to a fellow member for a GSR tranny. Because I just turbo'd my GSR (used to have a 190whp all motor GSR w/ the ITR tranny setup). I HATED highway driving, couldn't stand it. All my buddies hated driving behind me because I was going 65 on the highway because I couldn't stand hearing my engine getting the **** reved out of it. Instead I went with the GSR tranny so I could get the best of both worlds. A fast accelerating tranny and a tranny that didn't have a dog 3rd and 4th gear. Now granted i've heard people complain that the gearing was too short for boost. I wouldnt know, thats something I didn't want to experience.
I would take a GSR tranny over an ITR tranny. I would take a GSR tranny over a LS tranny. IF I was going turbo.
If I was going ALL MOTOR, I would go an ITR tranny over any of the other trannies. Its basically what you want.
What I want is not reving at 4.5k going 70. Period. I also like the longer gearing in the GSR and still having the acceleration. I don't like the 3rd and 4th dog gears of the LS tranny. Thats personal opinion, but its also opinion gathered over searching and reading. I think most would stick by me in my opinion.
false info?
it's factual..i have not noticed anything whatsoever in gas mpg reduction. Your telling me im lying?
i keep up on my scheduled maintenence, i do everything myself.
I notice absolutely no drop in gas mileage.
i get to work everyday on the same amount of gas as i did before.
maybe you have a clogged fuel filter or a clogged *** from dudes sticking it to you..i don't know, but thats your personal issues.
your telling me a Type R gets less gas mileage than an LS?
all it is is shorter gearing. SAME MOTOR! accelerating at high rpm's will reduce your gas mileage. Stop and go, will reduce your gas mileage. but maintaining a constant speed will not. No matter what tranny and how short the gearing is. YOU STOP SPREADING FALSE INFO, *** WARRIOR!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your tell me its the same motor? I could have sworn the LS made around 140hp from the factory and the ITR (b18c5) made around 195hp from the factory. One has VTEC the other doesn't. One is the fast, the other isn't. The c5 has more compression then the LS. But yeah I would say they are the same engine.
I think most of the debate is do people want to drive around at 4.5k at 70mph on the highway. Well i've been there. I just sold my 4.785 FD, Kaaz LSD ITR tranny to a fellow member for a GSR tranny. Because I just turbo'd my GSR (used to have a 190whp all motor GSR w/ the ITR tranny setup). I HATED highway driving, couldn't stand it. All my buddies hated driving behind me because I was going 65 on the highway because I couldn't stand hearing my engine getting the **** reved out of it. Instead I went with the GSR tranny so I could get the best of both worlds. A fast accelerating tranny and a tranny that didn't have a dog 3rd and 4th gear. Now granted i've heard people complain that the gearing was too short for boost. I wouldnt know, thats something I didn't want to experience.
I would take a GSR tranny over an ITR tranny. I would take a GSR tranny over a LS tranny. IF I was going turbo.
If I was going ALL MOTOR, I would go an ITR tranny over any of the other trannies. Its basically what you want.
What I want is not reving at 4.5k going 70. Period. I also like the longer gearing in the GSR and still having the acceleration. I don't like the 3rd and 4th dog gears of the LS tranny. Thats personal opinion, but its also opinion gathered over searching and reading. I think most would stick by me in my opinion.
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Re: (SoulSurfer)
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Being boosted will not raise the redline. I'm saying that he will probably hit 6800 rpm by the time he gets to 120mph.</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude i just told you i topped out at 129. that was at about 5500 rpms.. so there was plenty to spare. I didnt say boosting will raise the redline. If he took it to redline, while boosted, he'd definitely top out in the 145+ range. His needle will definitely hang lower than the 145 max mark.
Aerodynamics also play a big role for tops speeds. Proper downforce will also carry him to higher speeds.
But the thing is. What's the need to go THAT fast?
350 whp on a boosted LS with a type R tranny.. you'll put like 3 or 4 lengths on a z06 at 120 from a 60mph punch..
then just shut it down at 120. simple as that.
you guys need to go to the extreme limit, till you kill yourselves? lol
Being boosted will not raise the redline. I'm saying that he will probably hit 6800 rpm by the time he gets to 120mph.</TD></TR></TABLE>
dude i just told you i topped out at 129. that was at about 5500 rpms.. so there was plenty to spare. I didnt say boosting will raise the redline. If he took it to redline, while boosted, he'd definitely top out in the 145+ range. His needle will definitely hang lower than the 145 max mark.
Aerodynamics also play a big role for tops speeds. Proper downforce will also carry him to higher speeds.
But the thing is. What's the need to go THAT fast?
350 whp on a boosted LS with a type R tranny.. you'll put like 3 or 4 lengths on a z06 at 120 from a 60mph punch..
then just shut it down at 120. simple as that.
you guys need to go to the extreme limit, till you kill yourselves? lol