NHRA has a poll going on their website that ask what people think of two car teams. Almost 1/3 of the respondents, have said they are unfair to smaller teams. I would like to know what people think of this, cuz I think they are just a bunch of whiners. Two car teams are generally well funded because of one thing. HARD WORK... Don't cry and whin cuz someone is better funded than you. Go out and work as hard as they did to get what they have attained. Just my opinion. What is yours??

 

i feel pretty much the same as you except alot of people didnt put in hard work to get sponsers, they just knew the right people or had the right sales person. but there are quite a few who really do deserve the money and help they have gotten. but as far as 2 car teams, if we want this sport to grow its just gonna be another thing people are going to have to deal with.

 

I am part of a two car team. Me and Stacey, we have a full season sponsor, my wallet.

 

I don't care if it is one car or ten car teams. It takes a lot of money, dedication and hard work to race. The more the better for our sport.
Even though we envy teams like Bullish Street Glow Racing, they have paved the way for bigger things for our sport. Since the sport has gotten bigger, more money and attention has been invested into newer products we now take for granted. We have benefitted greatly from cutting edge products like the AEM EMS, HONDATA, VAFC. Racing brings the bucks in to develop new products. This eventually trickes down to the smaller guy who races.

You can't tell me that 7 years ago that we would have have 10 sec full interior Hondas for daily drivers? Technology is a good thing.

Stop whining about it. Not every race is won on just power alone. Driver skill is just as important especially in a 600whp FWD Honda.

My 2 cents

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L-B racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i feel pretty much the same as you except alot of people didnt put in hard work to get sponsers, they just knew the right people or had the right sales person. but there are quite a few who really do deserve the money and help they have gotten..</TD></TR></TABLE> Ask anyone with a big sponsor, and they will tell you, that cultivating those connections with the people that eventually sponsor them is very hard work. The only time a race team is "Handed" anything, is if they are independently wealthy or have a rich family. And there isn't one team in the Sport Compact market who fits that bill. Every single team out there has worked they *** to the bone for what they have..

 

Do they mean, 2 car teams as in.... 2 cars in each class (ex. Bullish) or 2 car teams like in seperate classes. just curiious, not very clear

 

I think its the same agruemeant as the faster sponser backed hotrod guys being seperated just beacuse the have more money and are going faster
Those guys worked hard to get where they are and started out just like you and me at some point, just because they got started earlier they shouldnt be punished.

Either way If youve worked for whatever you have then more power to ya

 

Titan ?

2 cars is a wonderful thing, it's extra Data. This helps the times get quicker and more consistent, and the products that cross over get better testing. It's almost a must have nowadays. I'm sure there will be 3 car teams before you know it (Kalita Air in NHRA does already, trickles down towards imports before you know it). Once you have the car and 2 spares of everything, buying and loading another car in the trailor really isn't that much larger of an investment on the big picture compared to the results it can bring.

 

the people who bitch about 2 car teams having an advantage dont work hard enough imo... granted racing does involve money... look at it this way... compare gardella to gm... and whose on top... and im pretty damn sure that gm has a hell of alot more money to spend than gary... it all comes down to how hard u work and how bad u want to be the best

 

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And there you have it... Well said Tom

 

What up Jon? Look the way it goes is that anyone that races works hard at it, if you don't your gonna be left behind and be way slower then the rest of the field. Money can make getting parts easier or travel more comfortable and does give the appearance of a more "professional team" but sometimes money takes away from the figuring things out factor, getting something to work using your brain instead of just replacing parts. Also not everyone gets sponsors because of hard work I know someone, and so do you Jon, that got a crap load of money last year and in NO WAY did ANYTHING to deserve it or did anything with it. This season I have no money sponsors at all but wait to you see my new car it's sooo sick but it was built with brains not $. 2 car teams are fun to watch it builds excitment from the entertainment side, pain in the *** to race against, just drives everyone to think more and get faster.

 

I'm all for 2 car teams. Even tho i'm not a compeditor in the pro classes, i still think the more the better.. What ever keeps the sport exciting and growing cant be bad...

 

I thought all that was over and done with bro. Can't we let that die.

 

 

I just read on another post about "must be nice to have BIG money like they do" and "I wish I could get a sponser then I could be the fastest." Just a thought Sponsers = Money ok they usually do but nothings for free EVER! A check for a set amount of money is written for the whole race season. Great now you got it made Oh wait I forgot that car you built with your own money is now under contract for say 12 months to SAID SPONSER. Well said sponser wants the car @ SEMA, you have the car 50% done because you know the race season doesn't start for 2 months after SEMA but the company on that check you cashed doesnt care. So you get the car there all is well - but wait the car needs to be ready for the race now - so tear it down and finish what you missed - test and tune and "MAKE IT WORK" in the next 6 weeks. Dont forget the first race it say a 3-4 day drive so really you only 5 weeks if all goes PERFECT you make it. Well us sport compact guys push and push so we break stuff. But the check has been cashed so no matter the cost you will be at the next race. I could go on but its abit of topic sorry. Just a thought.

As for the two car teams I think it would be great 1 - it would make or sport look that much more professional. 2 - If one of the cars broke the other one would could still uphold that teams name. Worst case ( bullish ) you would have to beat your teammate in the finals. Also knowing the right people in the right company dosent always mean they will simply write you a bling check. OG peolpe in this scene know who works and who skates by - look in the face of a sucessful team after a race you will see the look of a tired man - or woman and its not from cashing all those checks
Just my thinking

 

ok. are we talking about our other friend?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RageDzine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just read on another post about "must be nice to have BIG money like they do" and "I wish I could get a sponser then I could be the fastest." Just a thought Sponsers = Money ok they usually do but nothings for free EVER! A check for a set amount of money is written for the whole race season. Great now you got it made Oh wait I forgot that car you built with your own money is now under contract for say 12 months to SAID SPONSER. Well said sponser wants the car @ SEMA, you have the car 50% done because you know the race season doesn't start for 2 months after SEMA but the company on that check you cashed doesnt care. So you get the car there all is well - but wait the car needs to be ready for the race now - so tear it down and finish what you missed - test and tune and "MAKE IT WORK" in the next 6 weeks. Dont forget the first race it say a 3-4 day drive so really you only 5 weeks if all goes PERFECT you make it. Well us sport compact guys push and push so we break stuff. But the check has been cashed so no matter the cost you will be at the next race. I could go on but its abit of topic sorry. Just a thought.

As for the two car teams I think it would be great 1 - it would make or sport look that much more professional. 2 - If one of the cars broke the other one would could still uphold that teams name. Worst case ( bullish ) you would have to beat your teammate in the finals. Also knowing the right people in the right company dosent always mean they will simply write you a bling check. OG peolpe in this scene know who works and who skates by - look in the face of a sucessful team after a race you will see the look of a tired man - or woman and its not from cashing all those checks
Just my thinking

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That's all part of being on a Pro Team, that's what makes winning that much sweeter, that's what some teams do and don't get to cash that "troublesome check" Man being able to do this for a living no matter how much pressure and hard work is still better than any 9 to 5.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RageDzine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just read on another post about "must be nice to have BIG money like they do" and "I wish I could get a sponser then I could be the fastest." Just a thought Sponsers = Money ok they usually do but nothings for free EVER! A check for a set amount of money is written for the whole race season. Great now you got it made Oh wait I forgot that car you built with your own money is now under contract for say 12 months to SAID SPONSER. Well said sponser wants the car @ SEMA, you have the car 50% done because you know the race season doesn't start for 2 months after SEMA but the company on that check you cashed doesnt care. So you get the car there all is well - but wait the car needs to be ready for the race now - so tear it down and finish what you missed - test and tune and "MAKE IT WORK" in the next 6 weeks. Dont forget the first race it say a 3-4 day drive so really you only 5 weeks if all goes PERFECT you make it. Well us sport compact guys push and push so we break stuff. But the check has been cashed so no matter the cost you will be at the next race. I could go on but its abit of topic sorry. Just a thought.


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I wish i had those problems.. I could only dream of being able to compete on a national level, no matter how much work it was, id do it in a hart beat...

 

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Getting paid to do what you love to do is the shizzzzznit!</TD></TR></TABLE>

RON you would do this stuff for free - No you would pay to do this stuff, in fact you probably do - But no matter how much the check is or if you get factory support this is what we do and no one will stop you with or with out $ the track is calling. BERGENHOLTZ RAGING O.G.

This stuff is in our blood and cant be removed.

 

Gotta look good when you go fast ----- you know.

 

im surprised this never came up. theres a few ppl out there that did absolutely nothing to get into the team they are in muchless a 2 car team. it seems as though they just got on their knees and did alittle sucky sucky to get in the position they are in today (ie big corporate sponsorships). everyone knows who these ppl are and ironically with factory backed sponsorships these are the ppl generally goin the fastest. they got 3 motors sittin in the trailers, 5 trannies and 6 guys willing to bust their *** to make it to the next round.
u can never discount the "smaller" guys, known as the OGs, bergenholtz, kubo, papadakis, callos, tran. i bet none of the teams mentioned above have near the budget the factory cars have.

 

Let me guess GM??

 

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Isn't Adam's family loaded?

 

We are a 3 car team and sponsored by OUR money and hard work!

 

Yup a 3 car team and I wish I had all kinds of sponsers to help out but for now our own money will do.