I was at International Auto Salon in SoCal this last weekend, here's something that I found interesting from the nice people at SPC:

1. adjustable caster
2. adjustable camber
3. cast aluminium3
4. available within a few months
5. retail of $180 each

Here are the picture:



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Here's how they add in the caster, the bolt on the ball joint can be offset, square washer aligns it in the A-arm, and the ball joint can be turned to provide a different mounting offset...not the best description, but I hope that the picture is a little easier to understand:



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looks like a quality piece.

 

i'm just wondering what keeps that from slipping any differently than the Skunk ones..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm just wondering what keeps that from slipping any differently than the Skunk ones..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh, its got just 1 bolt instead of 4.... wait that doesn't seem right.

Honestly thats the biggest issue I have with their design. I wouldn't be too excited about running the setup with only one bolt holding it, at least i can change the hardware on a skunk and lock all 4 down.

 

I have two issues:

1. Dave's issue. Serious slippage concerns. At least the Skunk2 piece has a relatively easy 'fix'.
2. PRICE.

Chris - who thanks Austin for the heads up, neat piece, just some concerns...

 

I am skeptical about the thread pitch and overall engagement height of the nut. The thread pitch looks too fine and may end up galling up with repeated adjustment over time. It obviously is that way because of clearance issues. The height of the ball joint assembly is taller because of the added adjustment of the eccentric joint. Low profile nuts should only be used in shear and that application is clearly a combination of shear and tension. A good rule of thumb for steel fasteners is that the height of the thread engagement should equal at least the diameter of the stud. Since they are using a finer thread, this may not apply. However, I would rather have a coarser thread (M12 x 1.25) with a 1D thread engagement than a fine thread and a 0.5D thread engagment. That is NOT a fastener that you can afford to fail on you. IMO, I would not buy this product without seeing others who auto-x/track their cars provide their response.

 

/\/\/\/\ hot dayum that was good input!

 

Appears to be a quality piece, but I share the aforementioned concerns.

 

ooooo those look interesting. Ill stick with the Junk2's for now though until others test them out.

Ryan, who could use caster adjustment because of a previous accident.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ooooo those look interesting. Ill stick with the Junk2's for now though until others test them out.

Ryan, who could use caster adjustment because of a previous accident. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Cause fixing whatever is bent is not the Ryan way?

Most likely the lowe control arm is bent....i'm going through the same thing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Cause fixing whatever is bent is not the Ryan way?

Most likely the lowe control arm is bent....i'm going through the same thing.
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Has anyone played with the rumor that swapping upper arms from side to side increases caster? I always like having more info on hand

 

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Has anyone played with the rumor that swapping upper arms from side to side increases caster? I always like having more info on hand </TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn, wasn't that my question? I asked somebody that a few days ago.....

 

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Damn, wasn't that my question? I asked somebody that a few days ago..... </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not a rumor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's not a rumor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fun, I thought it was factual. Just didn't want to come off like I was saying it works Thanks

 

that one bolt just does not inspire confindence...

 

Pollo, I already replaced the lower control arm

 

SPC wouldnt release it if it was having probs im sure. im sure they did a fair amount of testing on it , Ill call them and get a set for my car and try them out.

 

get me a set too while your at it. Ill be down in 2 weeks to pick them up

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SPC wouldnt release it if it was having probs im sure. im sure they did a fair amount of testing on it , Ill call them and get a set for my car and try them out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd hope so.. but i also would've hoped that skunk2 would've done the same thing.. theirs still have problems..

 

I don't want to make everyone worry about this product because of what I said. I am sure that the product will work fine if it is adjusted and maintained in one configuration for an indefinite amount of time. However, what I am worried about is not the product but the user. The more and more you mess with things the more it gets worn out. If you have a weekend racer continually altering the camber and caster the parts will wear out quicker. That is what I am worried about. If you set it and leave it and use some loctite, I am sure that you will be fine. This should apply to 95% percent of the users who just need the adjustment to correct for a drop or an accident and don't auto-x/track on a regular basis.

 

You can`t compare SPC and Skunk. Two totally different leagues.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Austin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">retail of $180 each
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each side???

 

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each side???</TD></TR></TABLE>

affirmative

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by markpaco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If you have a weekend racer continually altering the camber and caster the parts will wear out quicker. That is what I am worried about. If you set it and leave it and use some loctite, I am sure that you will be fine. This should apply to 95% percent of the users who just need the adjustment to correct for a drop or an accident and don't auto-x/track on a regular basis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but are those weekend racers going to want to drop $360 on it?

i guess that's still my biggest concern.. paying a lot for a product that could fail on track..

 

i know the guys at SPC, they will stand behind their products.
They are very nice people. They are there for the racers.