torn cv boot/axle problem
ok, forgive me if this is a comon topic, but a few searches led me no where. last nite we were on our way home in my friends 89 hatch with a DOHC ZC swap, and we notices some pretty sever vibrations coming from the front of the car. we pulled over, and noticed that his driver's side CV boot going into the tranny was busted, and grease and gunk was everywhere.
my question is, how hard is this to change? im assuming that the cv boot is sealed, and we'll have to buy a whole new axle right? is it just a simple as pull a pin, the axle slides out, and put the new ones in? should we just get honda replacements (assuming they still make them), go to a junkyard and find some, or look to the aftermarket for some nice strong axles?
one more question. is this something that wears out over time, or did all the hard launches tear it up? and what can we do to prevent this in the future?
sorry for all of the questions, but i really want to get this fixed soon. thanks in advance for your help.
my question is, how hard is this to change? im assuming that the cv boot is sealed, and we'll have to buy a whole new axle right? is it just a simple as pull a pin, the axle slides out, and put the new ones in? should we just get honda replacements (assuming they still make them), go to a junkyard and find some, or look to the aftermarket for some nice strong axles?
one more question. is this something that wears out over time, or did all the hard launches tear it up? and what can we do to prevent this in the future?
sorry for all of the questions, but i really want to get this fixed soon. thanks in advance for your help.
there is a thing called a quick boot, what you do is cut the old one off then withthe new boot it comes with grease which you have to repack the joint with then u put the boot on and put the straps on and your good to go any questions hit me up
Buy the replacment axle. If dirt got into the grease then it will fail the joint anyway. And dirt did get into it. Rebuilt ones go for $60-70 with life time warranty.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tpr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buy the replacment axle. If dirt got into the grease then it will fail the joint anyway. And dirt did get into it. Rebuilt ones go for $60-70 with life time warranty.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, my friend and i have already decided that new axles are the way to go. where should we pick up these rebuilt axles? and how exactly do we change them? thanks for all of your help.
yeah, my friend and i have already decided that new axles are the way to go. where should we pick up these rebuilt axles? and how exactly do we change them? thanks for all of your help.
wassup man... i live in Hawaii, and i actually change axles for side jobs... if you have a celly, and have free long distance minutes, i can help you out... call me @ 808-389-6821 and my name is Daniel... the first time is usually a bit***!!, but it's easy if you follow certain directions. It wouldn't take you longer than an hour your first time, but i can change both sides within 25 min... so hit me up.. peace.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by psfknr_freakenrican »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wassup man... i live in Hawaii, and i actually change axles for side jobs... if you have a celly, and have free long distance minutes, i can help you out... call me @ 808-389-6821 and my name is Daniel... the first time is usually a bit***!!, but it's easy if you follow certain directions. It wouldn't take you longer than an hour your first time, but i can change both sides within 25 min... so hit me up.. peace.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for the advice. where would you suggest we get some axles at?
thanks for the advice. where would you suggest we get some axles at?
thanks for the help so far everybody. i have yet another question though. im trying to figure out exactly which transmision my friends car has, so we can figure out which axles to put in. next to his engine code, on the transmision is stamped L3-1702893. what im wondering is, is the L3 tranny the ZC tranny? or is it the si tranny?
somebody w/ one of the two possible transmissions take your **** out and go 70 mph in 4th and 5th and tell us the rpm for each
then he can go 70 in 4th and 5th and see if they match up.
also tell us your tire size.
be sure not to post if you think you may have a speedo problem
yes I know this would work w/ only one gear, but the answer will be more definitive using two gears.
also i take no responsibility for any tickets you may incur while performing this test. hehe
then he can go 70 in 4th and 5th and see if they match up.
also tell us your tire size.
be sure not to post if you think you may have a speedo problem
yes I know this would work w/ only one gear, but the answer will be more definitive using two gears.
also i take no responsibility for any tickets you may incur while performing this test. hehe
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drussell4801 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">somebody w/ one of the two possible transmissions take your **** out and go 70 mph in 4th and 5th and tell us the rpm for each
then he can go 70 in 4th and 5th and see if they match up.
also tell us your tire size.
be sure not to post if you think you may have a speedo problem
yes I know this would work w/ only one gear, but the answer will be more definitive using two gears.
also i take no responsibility for any tickets you may incur while performing this test. hehe</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, that would have been a good idea before we took both of the axles out.
what we have done so far is taken both axles out, and we had to take the intermediate shaft off to get part of the broken axle out. when we look through the hole where the axles are supposed to go, we can see a lil small bar runing through the middle. this means we dont have an lsd right? also, if we bring the good axle to autozone or somewhere, can they identify it for us? that would be easier than trying to count splines, and it would eliminate the guess work of trying to figure out what axles the car needs. thanks again for everyones help.
then he can go 70 in 4th and 5th and see if they match up.
also tell us your tire size.
be sure not to post if you think you may have a speedo problem
yes I know this would work w/ only one gear, but the answer will be more definitive using two gears.
also i take no responsibility for any tickets you may incur while performing this test. hehe</TD></TR></TABLE>
well, that would have been a good idea before we took both of the axles out.
what we have done so far is taken both axles out, and we had to take the intermediate shaft off to get part of the broken axle out. when we look through the hole where the axles are supposed to go, we can see a lil small bar runing through the middle. this means we dont have an lsd right? also, if we bring the good axle to autozone or somewhere, can they identify it for us? that would be easier than trying to count splines, and it would eliminate the guess work of trying to figure out what axles the car needs. thanks again for everyones help.
that little bar is the pinion, connects the pinion gears to each other. then the axles connect to the side gears.
go to http://www.howstuffworks.com for a good write up on differentials.
the presence of the bar only proves you don't have a quaif lsd. I guess it's possible that you could have a clutching type lsd.
seriously though, if you did have a lsd, i would think you'd know about it.
go to http://www.howstuffworks.com for a good write up on differentials.
the presence of the bar only proves you don't have a quaif lsd. I guess it's possible that you could have a clutching type lsd.
seriously though, if you did have a lsd, i would think you'd know about it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drussell4801 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that little bar is the pinion, connects the pinion gears to each other. then the axles connect to the side gears.
go to http://www.howstuffworks.com for a good write up on differentials.
the presence of the bar only proves you don't have a quaif lsd. I guess it's possible that you could have a clutching type lsd.
seriously though, if you did have a lsd, i would think you'd know about it.
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well, from what i've read, supposedly if we could see strait through the tranny, that means the car has an lsd. its my friends car, and i dont drive it that much, so im not sure how it behaves and such, so im not sure if he has an lsd or not.
go to http://www.howstuffworks.com for a good write up on differentials.
the presence of the bar only proves you don't have a quaif lsd. I guess it's possible that you could have a clutching type lsd.
seriously though, if you did have a lsd, i would think you'd know about it.
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well, from what i've read, supposedly if we could see strait through the tranny, that means the car has an lsd. its my friends car, and i dont drive it that much, so im not sure how it behaves and such, so im not sure if he has an lsd or not.
you see the pinion(the bar) in regular open diff's, and clutching type lsd's.
the gear type lsd's you see right through.
OEM honda lsd's are all gear type to the best of my knowledge, so that's why it's a rule of thumb that if you see through you got lsd. THOUGH it is possible that some aftermarket company makes an lsd that is an exception to the rule, but seriously doubtful your friend has one.
good luck with the axles.
if you wanna be completely sure about whether he has lsd or not, there are some sure-fire tests you could perform after his car is up and running again. even if you find he doesn't have an lsd, it's a learning experience.
the gear type lsd's you see right through.
OEM honda lsd's are all gear type to the best of my knowledge, so that's why it's a rule of thumb that if you see through you got lsd. THOUGH it is possible that some aftermarket company makes an lsd that is an exception to the rule, but seriously doubtful your friend has one.
good luck with the axles.
if you wanna be completely sure about whether he has lsd or not, there are some sure-fire tests you could perform after his car is up and running again. even if you find he doesn't have an lsd, it's a learning experience.
well, after many delays, what should be a simple task turned into a big one. when we finaly got a new axle, put everything back together, and filled the transmission up with 1.5 quarts of honda MTF. we checked and double checked everything, and it all checked out fine. my friend cranked the car, put it in gear, eased the clutch out, and we hear SNAP, then the clunk clu8nk clunk of a broken axle bouncing around down there. we think a busted motor mount caused the motor to shift and break the axle, but would it be bad enough to break it on our first drive? like i said, we only moved a few inches. if the axle was the wrong one, would that have caused this? any help would be greatly appriciated.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCracer723 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what knuckles do you have? did u try moving the tire or the brakes when the car was up on the jack?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have no idea what kind of nuckles the car has. how would we identify this, and what difference would it make?
im sure we did move stuff while it was on jack stands, but i dont remeber anything specific. when we put it back on jackstands, what should we look for?
thanks for all of your help.
i have no idea what kind of nuckles the car has. how would we identify this, and what difference would it make?
im sure we did move stuff while it was on jack stands, but i dont remeber anything specific. when we put it back on jackstands, what should we look for?
thanks for all of your help.
ok, we're pretty sure a broken motor mount caused the axle to break in the first place. we think the broken mount, plus the other mounts being polyurethene, plus many hard launches the night the axle came appart caused the motor to shift. my question is, is this enough to move the motor so much that the axle comes appart as soon as we take off? everyone ive talked to is stumped. if anybody could help us out please post.
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