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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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ok well i just made a trip to fl. and i'm down here now.. what my problem is that i'm loosin a least a quart of oil for every 200 miles i'm drivin.. there are no leaks! i checked everywhere.. i just put this engine in, it's brand new. built and sleeved ect. i had removed the hose from the top of the intake to the breather due to the point that i thought it was suckin the oil from there.. now all i see is that the oil is spewin from that filter breather i had put on the pvc the other breather that comes from the intake is also doing the same.. i'm was sure that this oil is shootin out of these breathers and is being sucked throught my intake to be burnt, but now the oil is just being spewed out.. do i have a problem up in my head somewhere or do i have hoses hooked up wrong.. i did every possible thing to try to figure this out.. should this oil be coming out of the valve over like that? i mean i would imagine that oil would be being sucked into those valve cover breathers, not oil being shot out of them....? if someone can post a pick of their intake mani set-up just to see if mine isn't set up wrong that would be nice please.. i don't seem to be having smoke in my exhaust so i think my whole oil problem is just the shooting out the breathers.. someone help me please.. i'm sick of looking at my oil all the time and i have a whole trip back to n.j..
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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anyone?
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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Maybe if you post a pic of what you have done with the PCV system, someone can help.....3gdude
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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what is your compression ratio on the new motor? What are your compression numbers when you do a compression test? If your getting lots of oil in the pcv system then maybe you have mad blow by going on. Also I would check the oil pressure, it should not be over 80psi with the engine revving.

PS, Your not running boost are you?
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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no i'm not runnin boost, and my comp is 10-1 the engine was built for n20 . my oil pressure isn't above 80 i have a guage and now that i think of it when i was replacing my tranny it was very easy to spin my flywheel. i mean i do have a lighten'd one but it seemed just to east for it to be spun by hand.. when i was strippin my stock engine down for the re-build it was very hard to spin it.....? i'm down in delray beach now and i dunno where to go to do a comp test. My shop told me they used chrome rings on my pistons (j-e). i've heard they take a while to set but it's been about 3k + on the motor so i dunno what's up. i can't get a pic on but i basically listed above what i have done with the pvc system.. all i know is that the oil is coming out of both breathers on the valve cover and it's pissing me off royally......i paid to much $ for this engine to be having this problem.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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you can do the comp test yourself. Get a compression test Gage, they don't cost much.

1) take out all spark plugs
2) disconnect all injector wires
3) screw the compression Gage into one of the spark plug holes
4) push the throttle to the ground, and crank the engine several times (crank wait a sec, crank again, wait a sec, crank a 3rd time)
5) look at the Gage to see what your compression is, then do the next cylinder.

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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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ok sounds good. i'll pick one up tommorrow or tonight and keep ya posted. thanks
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 577HondaPrelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Also I would check the oil pressure, it should not be over 80psi with the engine revving</TD></TR></TABLE> what could be the cause of high oil pressure like up in the 90 psi?
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 577HondaPrelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can do the comp test yourself. Get a compression test Gage, they don't cost much.

1) take out all spark plugs
2) disconnect all injector wires
3) screw the compression Gage into one of the spark plug holes
4) push the throttle to the ground, and crank the engine several times (crank wait a sec, crank again, wait a sec, crank a 3rd time)
5) look at the Gage to see what your compression is, then do the next cylinder.

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I would take out the fuel pump fuse rather than disconecting all injectors...much easier to me...
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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I thought the PVC valve was the one that runs from the valve cover to the intake manifold? The line that goes from the valve cover to the intake pipe is the breather hose.
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I would take out the fuel pump fuse rather than disconecting all injectors...much easier to me...</TD></TR></TABLE>

that will work also, if you let off the fuel pressure by loosening the nut on the end of the fuel rail. Otherwise there will still be some pressure and some fuel will come out the injectors when you crank the engine.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:59 AM
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ok i did the compression testin on the engine and all the readings were between 195 and 205 basically. i tossed the breather and hooked the pvc back up with a new hose to it's original location.. i hooked the breather hose back up to the aem cai and we'll see what happens from here.. i'm taking a trip down to maimi today so we'll see it she's still eatin oil... my prediction is she probably will be.. r those compression readings correct?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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PCV Positive Crankcase Ventalation...cmon now people we're not talking about PVC piping here!!
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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compression sounds good. Get a new PCV valve while your at it and see if that helps on the trip. You can get them at any auto parts store for less than $10.

I'm not sure why your burning so much oil.

Just to make sure you have it hooked up right:

(Intake)---&gt;(Crank Case)---&gt;(PCV valve on other side of crank case)----&gt;(Intake mani)
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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ok.. i'll pick one up today, and i'm left with nothing else if that doesn't solve my problem.. and oh yea sorry bout the "pvc" haha.. maybe that stuff will help me if i'm outta options...?
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i had removed the hose from the top of the intake to the breather due to the point that i thought it was suckin the oil from there.. now all i see is that the oil is spewin from that filter breather i had put on the pvc the other breather that comes from the intake is also doing the same.. i'm was sure that this oil is shootin out of these breathers and is being sucked throught my intake to be burnt, but now the oil is just being spewed out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can't make heads or tails of what you've done here . . . . you've got a breather on both the inlet & outlet? But it doesn't matter - just put it back to stock. Look in your Helms for a flow diagram & info on how it's supposed to be set up - or do a search here, it's been covered before.
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