Way to go Honda, 3rd and 5th finish. Not bad for Button and Sato. Also, Schumacher makes f1 boring, he needs to retire. Other than that though, good Button. Looks like Honda has a chance to do good things this year... Maybe.
What do you guys think?

 

I think you're an idiot. Why would Schumacher need to retire? It's not his fault F1 is boring, he's just going out there and doing what he does best (besides football that is). If he's still competitive, I see no reason why he wouldn't keep going.

 

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I'll remember that next time I see a Cancer cure boiled up... I'll ask the Doctor to please exit the profession, for making the life and death battles boring.

Remember, Formula 1 is a business, and asking anybody to cut productivity is like asking somebody to remove their hand.

 

I'd rather have Schumacher in F1 for as long he can go, even if he keeps obliterating the field. This will give the team that finally knocks Ferrari from the top more credibility and the whole event more exciting. But then again, if that happened, people would just start making excuses as to why Ferrari lost. Either way, I don't mind Ferrari winning all the time. It can only last so long.

 

What's with all the spoiler threads without spoiler in the title...

On the topic of Schumi, pretty much what everyone else said...the rest of the field will have to step it up if they want to play, and it'll be fun to watch once that happens. It's still fun to watch the field behind the Ferraris...

 

So you think its absolutely exciting that he just dominates every single time he races. There is no car setup that can catch him. Hes just a damn good driver. Plus, it was joke. People apparently do not know what sarcasm is. Especially RyanR. Maybe you're the dumbass for not catching the sarcasm in my comment. Its really annoying when people just immediately flame you for saying something, even it is a joke.

But anyway, like I said earlier. I found that this race was incredibly boring because Schumi led the whole way and by about 30 seconds. There was no competition. His car by itself cannot be that much faster than any other car out there. Look on the bright side though, Honda is ripping it up.

 

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This is just a retarded analogy. Honestly, I would be ashamed of myself for even thinking of writing this. How could you compare F1 to cancer?

 

Just because there's no racing involved in gaining the race lead, it doesn't mean that there isn't any racing involved at all (for positions 3 and backwards).

 

Well as Shumi himself once said: "I'm here to win races, not to make things interesting..."

Or something along those lines...

 

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don't blame someone for winning

blame williams and mclaren for not living up to the pre-season hype.

it's not ferrari's fault to reap the rewards when someone basically hands the race to them.

 

it is simply everyone elses job to catch up. tha is what happens when the best driver is in the best car.

to BAR for stepping up and becoming #3 and challenging #2 williams

 

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to BAR for stepping up and becoming #3 and challenging #2 williams </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed w/ everyone else catching up... and BAR is tied w/ Williams for 3rd right now... renault is in 2nd...

 

There will definately be a change in power soon...Remember McLaren a few years back? Totally unbeatable...look at them now, can't even finish a race. Honda was horrible last year, and now they have 2 podium finishes and getting better. Ferrari's reign will end eventually...

 

Honda would not have had a podium if Williams hadn't had a gearbox issue on JPM's car, and Ralphie didn't try to centerpunch Sato on the first lap. JPM was pretty far in the lead still when his car faltered. Yes, Button was closing, but if JPM had kept pace, he had 3rd locked up.

 

People suck. Schumacher is an awesome driver who has earned his success every step of the way. He obviously loves winning, and unlike many drivers he is not an egomaniac or a jerk. He is living his dream and loving it, and people hate him for it.

It is not as exciting when one team runs away with the win, but that's racing. Don't cry foul when one team is so damn good.

 

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So? Reliability is part of the game. BAR suffered from a lack of it last year, and now other teams are having similar issues. How do you know that the Williams wasn't faster because they did something different with the gearbox that made it more fragile?

Whether BAR is faster than Williams at the moment isn't really the issue though. The issue is that we are talking about them in the same sentence, which never would have happened last year. Hell, even Ferrari made a statement yesterday about BAR being the team to watch.

The best part is that they are going to be able to keep Button at the end of the year as well. He wants to do what Schumi did, develop a team, not just jump into one that already has a top car. He is doing that at BAR, but he couldn't do that at Williams.

Matt

 

Also, I was talking to one of my Formel Einz buddies and he was telling me that Mercedes Mclaren had an annual budget of only 230 Mil euros for the season, and that BAR Honda had somewhere upwards of 600 million euros for the season. thought that was cool.

 

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Exactaly, compare MS's expressions on the podium to JPM's or Kimi's... BIG difference... I'm glad he's still winning races, and as long as he can still win I think he should stay in the sport.

 

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This is just a retarded analogy. Honestly, I would be ashamed of myself for even thinking of writing this. How could you compare F1 to cancer? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for resorting to name calling. The analogy isn't 'retarded' - you just missed the point. I'm not trying to point out to you the moral implications of a cure, but rather the simple obliviousness you have to the necessary march of productivity. Eleanor Roosevelt once said that she believed we had reached a point where further gains in technology would make us poorer - they didn't, and never will. Asking Schumacher to step down is like saying "hey, good job. We hate overachievers." The rest of the teams need to step up: that's racing. It's not nice, pretty, and happy go lucky, and the outcome certainly isn't always going to please you.

As for the money situation. And? Ferrari didn't develop a massive budget by losing. Money can make you go faster, and you can generally get more of it by maximizing your ability to do well with what you've got. It's really a bit of an unfair argument to say that Schumacher as a driver is just too good, but that the reason that McLaren has fallen behind is because their car sucks.

 

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Then Barrichello would STILL lead the field in points. And whoever was driving the Ferrari most likely would be competitve. What is your point?

People are always bitching about the winners - lets all cry about the Yankees and how they have won 26 (or however many they have) World Series. Forget the fact that they have had the dedication and determination to do whatever necessary to win. Blah blah with the details right? Because they just 'suck' for winning and they should lose more often because it would be more interesting and dramatic? They have had the finances, management, AND the product (players) to win. Like Ferrari - money, excellent car and development team, and drivers. Please, save me from this ridiculous complaint.

IMO, Ferrari and Schumacher are VERY good for F1. Ferrari has the best car right now and one of the best drivers. By comparison, McClaren has Kimi - a VERY good driver as shown last year and a **** car. So is it Kimi's fault? No. So, honestly, what would Ferrari retiring do to even out the playing field? They would just get another excellent driver on their team and continue being the top contender.

Ferrari is raising the bar and pushing the other teams much harder. IF there was a level playing field - sure, it MIGHT be more exciting in terms of who is going to win the race, but would the quality of the racing be better? Doubt it. Last year was fantastic - and this year everyone else is going to have to step up and try to match Ferrari - somehow. It isn't Ferrari's fault that everyone else is having their own issues, is it? I guess it is also the Yankees fault that the Cubs haven't won a world Series in almost 100 years, right? Damn Yankees (whoa, 80's music!).

Maybe we should just ban Ferrari, Barichello, Schumacher, and anyone associated with Ferrari. That would DEFINITELY make the sport MUCH better.

Edited to make more sense.

 

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I liked watching Ferrari run 1&2 virtually the whole race, I think its great to witness such dominance and legacy. I also think it makes other drivers / teams a lot more competitive setting their sights on taking out Ferrari. Just my two cents.

 

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It is not as exciting when one team runs away with the win, but that's racing. Don't cry foul when one team is so damn good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My thoughts exactly.

And i was impressed with Sato for not giving up or backing down to RS .

 

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Don't you mean that B.A.R. took 1st and 3rd in their class (F2)?? F1 = Ferrari, F2 = everyone else. F1 has one set of rules, F2 has to change their rules when F1 doesn't like what they are doing (i.e. tires)


Steve

BTW: To all F1 fans, don't take this all serious and get pissed off at me . . . it's all in fun. I know how some F1 fanatics can get, bring on the death threats

 

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I know how some F1 fanatics can get, bring on the death threats </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are we atalking about Jos Verstappen fans?

 

In my opinion anyone who races should be exited and impressed with the performance of Ferrari (drivers and team). If it was me wining the races, I know I wouldn't be complaining.