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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 07:16 PM
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Would anyone be interested in this?

I would be willing to donate my time and my labor. I'll install all the cams, do all the valve adjustments and do all the tuning at the local dyno, The Dyno Shop. It's in Fort Myers, FL and it's a fairly new Dynojet. No bullshit Bosch dyno.

Between my friends and I, the following cams are available:
*98 Integra Type R
*00 Integra Type R
*JDM CTR
*Toda Spec A
*Toda Spec B
*JUN Stage 2
*JUN Stage 3
*Skunk2
*Crower 403 Drag Race

I was thinking some different things.. we could use either my car or TypeR-0149's car. Mine has the following mods...
-Head milled 12 thou for 11:1 compression
-DC JDM header w/ test pipe
-Stock exhaust
-AEM intake and cam gears
-A'PEXi V-AFC

Type R 0149 has:
-Spoon drop-in air filter
-DC JDM header wrapped in header wrap
-Test pipe
Basically stock if you ask me.

I think TypeR-0149 is low 170s at the wheels right now. Currently I am at 184.6 and 131.1 at the wheels, but this is with Spec A cams.

If we decide to use TypeR-0149's car, I plan on putting some Portflow valve springs in there to make it safe with the larger cams.

I also have access to an OBD-1 harness and the following programs...
-Mugen P30
-Skunk2 P28
-Locash P28
-PYR P28

I plan on doing the following...
-8-10 runs on strictly cam gears adjustments. Nothing biased. For example, if it looks like the Crower's are picking up mad power whenever I advance the intake cam, I am not gonna retard it 6 degrees to **** it up. I want this to be as honest as I can get it.
-V-AFC... but only if we use my car. TypeR-0149 doesnt have one. Like i said, lambdameter is available, so air/fuel ratio will be monitored. I can also test VTEC points, which would help.
-Fuel pressure.. I also have access to RC 270cc's and RC310cc's. These will be used with the "big boys" of the group.


The only thing is, dyno costs money. If we can get this all together, and I get donations for the dyno time, which I can score for $60.00 per hour, which includes use of the Motec a/f meter... then it's a go. Lemme know guys. I'm serious about doing this.


Later...
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 08:32 PM
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Mike,

You sure you want to take a bite at this one? You are talking 80-100 runs to tune all the cams. Weather will be a big factor since you won't be able to do it in one day. I believe this would be better handled with an engine dyno where conditions could be controlled. But I'd still be willing to help out $ wise if you go through with this abuse.
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 10:52 PM
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I started a similar thread but evryone said that i was crazy. Mike if your crazy enough i'll send you some dough. peace.
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Old Oct 24, 2001 | 11:47 PM
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So Mike K, how much you think the total dyno time alone will cost? I just don't think it is possible to get people on this board to donate that much money. And the main problem will be whatever result you get, people will still have a lot of doubt on why don't you do that and that. I just think it is not worth it to spend the time and money to do such a test. But if you can somehow pull this off, this will be great.

Also, if without donatation, which cams will you able to test on your own? Because from the sound of it, you are planning to get something other than the spec A anyway.
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Old Oct 25, 2001 | 05:15 AM
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SMS: I realize the time involved. If I didn't want to do it, I would not have posted this. I am up for it.

vago: I'd say a good 3 or 4 hours on each cam, over the course of a couple days. Total dyno time, like 20 hour, rough estimate: $1200.00. Yes, it's a lot. I'm gonna have to talk to the dyno shop guy and see what he says about giving me more of a discount.

DC2: yea, i am honestly leaning toward the JUN 3's after a good experience with them yesterday. i have never messed with them before but they are super cams.

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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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Default Re: The Great Camshaft Test (Mike K)

I'd donate some $ to make this happen.

Set it up. It'll benefit everyone on this board.

I'd rather see the results of the basically stock itr - seems to apply to most of the guys here...
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 11:46 AM
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Let me re-phrase my original post as I didn't properly read the original one.

I think doing it on multiple cars with similar mods would be a better idea. Just in terms of finances, and work, etc.


[Modified by onyx00, 12:48 PM 10/26/2001]
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Old Oct 26, 2001 | 12:07 PM
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.....I also think the basically stock car will need a vafc to handle some of the cams you have listed.
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