Are 7/8 in. diameter sway bars overkill?
I see kits for front and rear 7/8 in. sway bars. Usually the front bar is thicker than the back. maybe it's different for crx's because of the short wheel base. Anyone have input on this? thanks.
-Jake
-Jake
stronger front will cause oversteer
a stronger rear will cause understeer.
if im thinking of it right. i always mix them up
size wise im not sure what you should go with
a stronger rear will cause understeer.
if im thinking of it right. i always mix them up
size wise im not sure what you should go with
I rear bar is usually thicker then the back. You need more rotation thats why they have the thicker bar in the rear. If the bar is too thick in the front it will cause some understeer. 7/8=22mm thats not over kill at all. Most of the ones on the market for our car our 22mm. I think our stock one is like 13-14mm, not sure though.
Thanks for the replys, but I'm wondering why they sell kits with both bars the same diameter. Usually for other cars the rear bar is thinner than the front.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by regime »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stronger front will cause oversteer
a stronger rear will cause understeer.
if im thinking of it right. i always mix them up
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Backwards... all else being the same (location and # of bends in the bar, material, etc.) a thicker front sway bar will induce understeer/push. A thicker rear sway bar will induce oversteer/promote rotation.
Edit: This applies to FWD...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jtl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see kits for front and rear 7/8 in. sway bars. Usually the front bar is thicker than the back. maybe it's different for crx's because of the short wheel base. Anyone have input on this? thanks.
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Depends on the applicaton. As mentioned 7/8" = 22mm not unreasonable on the rear of a FWD Honda, but pretty much the standard for a CRX (although there are a couple semi-custom ones that go bigger). For competition purposes most people like stock front/big rear or no front/big rear. Depends on auto-x/track, driver preferences, rest of car setup, etc.
The typical aftermarket kit, while increasing performane (intended for street/sport driving), will utimately err on the side of safety (neutral to mild understeer at the limit). They usually sell matched bars since they can't trust the drivers skill to be up to the increased rotational characteristics the back end will have when you get off the throttle (panic lift/typical street driver tactic). Even an experienced driver may get into trouble given adverse road or weather conditions, which the sway bar manufacturer can't control (outside of putting that blanket "These are competition parts never to be used on public highways..." disclaimer that everyone ignores...)
a stronger rear will cause understeer.
if im thinking of it right. i always mix them up
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Backwards... all else being the same (location and # of bends in the bar, material, etc.) a thicker front sway bar will induce understeer/push. A thicker rear sway bar will induce oversteer/promote rotation.
Edit: This applies to FWD...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jtl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see kits for front and rear 7/8 in. sway bars. Usually the front bar is thicker than the back. maybe it's different for crx's because of the short wheel base. Anyone have input on this? thanks.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends on the applicaton. As mentioned 7/8" = 22mm not unreasonable on the rear of a FWD Honda, but pretty much the standard for a CRX (although there are a couple semi-custom ones that go bigger). For competition purposes most people like stock front/big rear or no front/big rear. Depends on auto-x/track, driver preferences, rest of car setup, etc.
The typical aftermarket kit, while increasing performane (intended for street/sport driving), will utimately err on the side of safety (neutral to mild understeer at the limit). They usually sell matched bars since they can't trust the drivers skill to be up to the increased rotational characteristics the back end will have when you get off the throttle (panic lift/typical street driver tactic). Even an experienced driver may get into trouble given adverse road or weather conditions, which the sway bar manufacturer can't control (outside of putting that blanket "These are competition parts never to be used on public highways..." disclaimer that everyone ignores...)
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