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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Hey everyone! I just installed some Skunkworks Coilover sleeves for my 91 Accord with spring rates of 10kg/mm. I am using Tokico HP (yes i know they suck and will eventually blow and I will be getting Koni Yellows in the future). For the rear, when i have the spring at the highest height, I still have only a 1 finger gap in the rear. The way the Tokico HP is built the sleeve is lower than where OEM springs would sit on.

I was wondering if it was possible to go to Home Depot, buy a pipe and cut it to extend the height of the sleeve??? When I autox, and the suspension is under high loads, the suspension wouldnt get damged if i did this, would it?? Does anyone know the dimensions of the sleeve or would Skunk2 be willing to give me the exact dimensions??? Thanks!!!
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Get longer springs instead.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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The springs are 2.5"x8". Here's a pic of what i would be doing:



I'm thinking the two sleeves might sit on each other weird or out of place, so what if i added a washer between those two???
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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Do it right, get longer springs.

For example: http://www.behrents.com/shocks.htm
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Wait, so your spring are too short with the car sitting at ride height? Get shorter springs, the pipe is going to misalign under load. Are you using the coilover sleeve adapter or is the sleeve just sitting on the spring perch?
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSpeedR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait, so your spring are too short with the car sitting at ride height? Get shorter springs, the pipe is going to misalign under load. Are you using the coilover sleeve adapter or is the sleeve just sitting on the spring perch?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My sleeve is too short, or my spring is too short. The sleeve just goes on the shock. The sleeve sits on where the spring perch is welded to the shock tube.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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anyone ever do this before??? cause i dont want to replace my springs for a larger one.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D21X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cause i dont want to replace my springs for a larger one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Erm, why not?

Just because you don't want to spend any money isn't a very good answer (not here, at least).
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ASteele2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Erm, why not?

Just because you don't want to spend any money isn't a very good answer (not here, at least).</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm a DIY kinda guy, so i figured their would be an easier solution then always spending money.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D21X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i figured their would be an easier solution then always spending money.</TD></TR></TABLE>


HA! then i STRONGLY suggest choosing a different hobby.

PURCHASE LONGER SPRINGS.


your home depot idea is truly a recipe for disaster.
and EXTREMELY ghetto.

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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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IS it remotely possible that you actually have the wrong springs on the sleeves. For that matter are you sure that the sleeves are correct for the end of the car? I would measure everything disassembled and then call Skunk2 and talk to them about this. You can swap the front springs for the rears, but that will cost you in the rates. Skunk supplies springs in 6", 7" and 8" lengths normally based on your order. The same is true to Ground Control, btw. I agree that what you propose for a solution is a recipe for disaster-you need a solid tube that is thread and of the correct material.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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Is the gap still there when the car is on the ground? I have the GC recommended 7" springs in the rear, and when my GSR is raised there is a gap. I called GC and was told that it is normal. My shocks are pretty stiffly valved. When the car sits the shocks compress and the springs sit as they should, there is no gap. Have had these for close to a year, done lots of DEs, and had no problems.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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All four springs are 2.5x8" 10kg/mm. I dont remember if their was a difference in sleeve height between the four. Maybe that might be the problem??? But looking at these pictures I dont think the sleeves had different height between the rear and front.



I used the ones on the right for the front and the ones on the left for the rear.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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In my experience with working on 4th generation Accords, One might certainly need a spring longer than 8" depending on the combination.

I'm with everyone else...just do it right and buy the springs you need.
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