well after a week or so of driving my car, i started to notice puddles of oil in my garage. not alot, but much more when the car is warming up. i look under my car and it looks like it is coming from the oil pan, but there is oil above the oil pan (maybe it got splashed up there?)

anyways, so i take off my oil pan and clean old the old silicione gasket, and put a new bead of it on. torqued everything down (accidentally tightened it to 140in lb, instead of 104) but i didnt think much of it. then i start it up everythign seems fine, so i drive it around and then park it in my garage.

about 30min passes and i go outside and i fine a nice puddle of the oil there... the puddles are that big, its about 6inches in diameter. its starting to really **** me off, beacuse its really hard to tell if anything is leaking further up, because everytying is so cramped. do u guys know of any other possibilities?

btw, i use a silicone gasket becuase all 97+ h22s use those type of gaskets, they dont have the regular gaskets.

 

check your camshaft oil seals.

 

check ur oil filter area

 

yeah, check valve cover, cam seals, filter area(make sure there isn't an old seal from your old filter!), check around the vtec solenoid, etc. You just gotta spend some time and track it down

 

only REAL way you can is to pour some of that fluorescent liquid (that's used for oil leaks) in and run ur car then put a black light to it. Then u can see the trail.

Could be from ur overtq'ing the oil pan nut (might of stripped it? maybe the rear main seal and the cam seals. how many miles is ur car? have u done regular maintenance to check these seals?

- A

 

not sure of the mileage, prob around 80k or so. i dont thinkthe overtorquing did anything becaue it is coming out from the exact same spot it did before. and what is the black light stuff?

 

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^^^What he said^^^ there is an oil cooler gasket that tends
to leak. carquest pn#72229 if you cant find it at honda

 

^^^ Oil cooler? h22s have oilcoolers?

 

yes. right behind the filter.

 

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you mean above..

 

My guess is that with the temp change recently, the oring that sits between the oil cooler and the block is bad. The cooler sits between the filter and the block. Anyway, i would check that first. It costs 2bux at the dealer for the ring, but replacing it can be a real pain...

 

i was feeling all around the filter, and it had no oil around it. so i think my o-ring is fine.

 

well this may be out there but i had an oil leak from the T for the oil pressure gauge that i replaced. and i had oil leakin for days after drove me nuts. Turns out that oil leaked into my res of my exahst and in the under carrage of my car and was spilling out after a drive. Try cleanin the hell outa the underneath. But fluorescent liquid in the oil seems to be the way to go if its a persistant amount of oil leakin

 

v0gueSilver_Dc2:

Dude, people aremainly guessing here, only a few ppl said things that would help you , like the ultraviolet dye thats shows under a black light.

But really you dont need all that (and that dye is mainly used to identify cracks in the metal of the engine), all you need to do is open the hood, get a damp rag/cloth and wipe away all the oil.

Then jack the car up and ideally put axle stands under it and if you dont have axle stands the put a wheel under & keep the jack holding the car up. That way if the jack fails you have a fail safe. (hydraulic jacks can 'pop their seals and fail i.e. Drop!)

Do the same on the underside with the cloth wiping away all the oil.
Start that car (while still on stands) give it 5 minutes for the oil pressure to rise then shut-off the engine, re-check and you should be able to visibly see the leak! then fix the actual problem you have discovered. Sorted

 

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anyways, so i take off my oil pan and clean old the old silicione gasket, and put a new bead of it on.

btw, i use a silicone gasket becuase all 97+ h22s use those type of gaskets, they dont have the regular gaskets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

should i have not put one on when i removed and replaced my oil pan gasket? i looked for one - honda parts center was closed - i have a 2000 but i bought a rubber gasket from autozone for a 95 prelude vtec and put that sukka on there (with silicon on both sides, of course). my helms said to replace the gasket, i think...
anyways, if it shouldn't be there, will i be ok with it on? should i pull it off again and replace it with a bead of silicon?

 

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should i have not put one on when i removed and replaced my oil pan gasket? i looked for one - honda parts center was closed - i have a 2000 but i bought a rubber gasket from autozone for a 95 prelude vtec and put that sukka on there (with silicon on both sides, of course). my helms said to replace the gasket, i think...
anyways, if it shouldn't be there, will i be ok with it on? should i pull it off again and replace it with a bead of silicon?</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow, it fit and u had no leaks??i would keep it if it worked.

 

Any luck with finding the leak yet?

 

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should i have not put one on when i removed and replaced my oil pan gasket? i looked for one - honda parts center was closed - i have a 2000 but i bought a rubber gasket from autozone for a 95 prelude vtec and put that sukka on there (with silicon on both sides, of course). my helms said to replace the gasket, i think...
anyways, if it shouldn't be there, will i be ok with it on? should i pull it off again and replace it with a bead of silicon?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are fine...a lot of people with the 5th gens get a gasket instead of using the blue rtv stuff or hondabond.

 

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you are fine...a lot of people with the 5th gens get a gasket instead of using the blue rtv stuff or hondabond.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Really where did you hear that?

5th gen oil pans dont have the bumps for the rubber oil pan gasket that holds the gasket and prevents it from squeezing out. Torqued to 140in/lbs that oil pan gasket must have REALLY squeezed out. On 4th gen oil pans you are only supposed to put sealent on the 4 corners of the pan and on the block where the gasket curves.

For 5th gen...

You need to just use ultra gray or hondabond and make sure that you scrape off all the old honda bond.

With no bumps in the oil pan the gasket gets squished out and WILL not work properly. If you manage to use so much sealent that it doesnt leak, you could have just not used a gasket at all and will just end up with MORE leaks down the line.

Find the leak, dont assume it is anything untill you can find it.

If it is the oil pan, buy permatex ultragray and scrap off all the old silicone with a gasket scraper and a box cutter blade to get in the tough to get spots.

Check out the helms manual, it goes into nice details directions how to apply the gasket sealent and the torque sequence. It is important that you apply the proper amount to completely seal the pan to the block.


Also, as soon as you finish dont just start your car... let the stuff dry overnight, then refill with oil.

When I do a job like that, I let the car sit overnight so I am not fighting the constant drip of oil. First thing in the morning i just take off the pan with the oil in it then dump the oil out. After that i soak up as much oil as i can out of the bottom of the block to prevent dripping.

Scrape old gasket for about an hour or so... make sure everything is clean and oil free by using break/carb cleaner or even simple green works great, then apply new sealent and retorque... let sit overnight then fill with oil in the morning. Let run for 5-10 mintues and inspect for leaks.

 

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yea i think its my oil pan again. I went to Carquest and got the gasket kit for my h22 and im gonna use that as the gasket. yea, i think i should of let it sit overnight, because last time, as soon as i put it on, i turned the car on. it doesnt leak that bad, and i accidentally put too much oil. its a little bit above the top hole. Is it bad to have too much oil? Ive been lazy lately, and i wanna still drive it till i have time to change out the gasket again.

 

Yeah overfilling's bad, it'll burn off the excesss and could cause you other headaches, Just drain some out when you get a minute