Whats up guys, something just popped into my head. I see a lot of NA guys making good power with this intake. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried to use this intake as part of the chargepipe? Of course you wouldn't be able to weld a blow off valve to it since all these intakes are constructed out of plastic, I think. So you can just weld the bov somewhere else on your intercooler or intercooler piping. I figure there would be some sort of drop in pressure because of this intake's huge diameter..but would it help with flowing the charges from the turbo as it does with those running N/A? If no one has done it before, i wanna give it a try, of course I won't be boosted until the summer, but mark my words, I will find out if its beneficial or not to use it..unless someone beats me to it

Here is a picture of what intake I am talking about.




Khoi

 

Your gonna have to find one hell of a reducer to bolt up to that. What's the OD on the intake (where the filter mounts)?

 

You know the kind of pressure drop you get through a big FMIC? Well, you're adding more of a drop with that pipe and I can't see how it'll be beneficial at all.

 

i think the o.d. is like 6 inches.

 

FI is mostly about the velocity of the charge air....not the volume. correct me if i'm wrong.....it's the whole blow into one straw...then try and blow into four straws all at once deal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gravy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the o.d. is like 6 inches.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It can't be 6 inches at the inlet and outlet...my guess is 2.5inches at the throttle body and 3 inches at the inlet. Although there is a pressure drop..i really think its minimal..

Khoi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mamaboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FI is mostly about the velocity of the charge air....not the volume. correct me if i'm wrong.....it's the whole blow into one straw...then try and blow into four straws all at once deal</TD></TR></TABLE> Its both. The the more air/volume you cram into the motor the more power you make, considering that you have enough fuel. But the better the flow, this in turn is what creates the higher volume of air that can be crammed into the motor.

Khoi

 

i have the same intake, oh my car, and i was wondering if you could rig up something to connect the charge pipes to that intake, but i am going to go a head and say no, because of the reducer and pressure
good luck with your car

 

the inlet is 5" i'm pretty sure. waste of a nice $30 intake IMO. 2.25" or 2.5" piping works and works well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preacherboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the same intake, oh my car, and i was wondering if you could rig up something to connect the charge pipes to that intake, but i am going to go a head and say no, because of the reducer and pressure
good luck with your car </TD></TR></TABLE>

Can you do me a favor? Can you go measure the outside diameter of the inlet and outlet of your intake? If I am correct, and the inlet is 3in..there are reducers for 3inch to 2-2.5in that can be found at http://www.atpturbo.com

Khoi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the inlet is 5" i'm pretty sure. waste of a nice $30 intake IMO. 2.25" or 2.5" piping works and works well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

5inches..no way...I am almost positive that filter that is on that intake can fit on those 3inch intake tubes you buy at pepboys or autozone, although I can be wrong. My guess is 3inch...somebody have one that can go measure for us?

Khoi

 

its 6 inch i sold a filter the other day for one.

 

I was looking at them the other day. 5" inlet at least.

 

only way to really find out is either go to the track or dyno it

 

well damn, 5 inches it is. I guess custom reducers are in order .

Khoi

 

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5inches..no way...I am almost positive that filter that is on that intake can fit on those 3inch intake tubes you buy at pepboys or autozone, although I can be wrong. My guess is 3inch...somebody have one that can go measure for us?

Khoi</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes way, and apparently it is actually 6". I have installed these before. How could it be 3"? look at the pic, it could eat that distributer whole!

 

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look at the pic, it could eat that distributer whole!</TD></TR></TABLE>

ROFL

Khoi

 

OT: but whats the theory behind those "J's intakes"?? seen a few but never quite got it why thye are so "coveted"...

 

You mean use that for the turbo's intake?

It's probably gonna cause more turbo lag

 

Every time the compressed air in your charge pipes has to change shape, direction, whatever, you add friction which adds heat which raises the knock threshold .

In this case the charge would have to be compressed at the turbo, then expand in the intercooler (this is good because it slows down enough to loose its heat) then compress again in to the charge pipe then expand back into the Js slug, distributer eater, then compress AGAIN into the TB.

It won't add turbo lag but it could delay boost rise just slightly (more volume to compress). you coulden't feel it I bet, but still it's not ideal.

reinventing the wheel is a great way to murder some time.

 

Try it out and prove all these guys wrong or right, If decisions were always left to the bias groups, we'd all be running around eating eachother

i think there is a possibility that it might make more power, so why not try it so you know for sure?

 

Ain't gonna work good. Might work, but won't work good.

And damn, I laugh every time I see one of those. Maybe they work good for what they intended, but they look retarded.

 

The theory behind the "Belly" of the intake piping is to have a Reservoir of intake air to feed the the 4 intake ports...This will increase torque and throttle response and can be found on turbo intake manifolds where the Plenum acts as the "belly"

Imagine you driving on a 2 lane highway that expands to a 4lane highway...The traffic that was congested now has room to speed and go 4 wide...Then you reach the throttle body and the intake plenum, then the runners and finally the chambers...Its all about fluid dynamics...Flow(Volume) and Pressure(speed)

 

if you go from small pipe --&gt;larger pipe--&gt;small pipe it will cause the air to slow down right before it enters the IT mani, then speed up again, due to P1V1=P2V2.

ok so what have you done? nothing, except maybe cause more turbulence to to the air flow.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sunrise City Rider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The theory behind the "Belly" of the intake piping is to have a Reservoir of intake air to feed the the 4 intake ports...This will increase torque and throttle response and can be found on turbo intake manifolds where the Plenum acts as the "belly"

Imagine you driving on a 2 lane highway that expands to a 4lane highway...The traffic that was congested now has room to speed and go 4 wide...Then you reach the throttle body and the intake plenum, then the runners and finally the chambers...Its all about fluid dynamics...Flow(Volume) and Pressure(speed)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I do exactly this every day on my drive home from school, it's called a traffic jam.