Finally! Type R NOT stolen!
I'm a noob on this board and actually just bought my R a few weeks ago. After reading all the posts on here of cars being stolen I decide the first investment in the car would be a Clifford G5 Intelligard 850 with tilt sensor and wireless immobilizer.
Now getting to the story, I take it to my local stereo place and give them a day to get the alarm in. Ofcourse, at 6:30 I get a call saying they can't finish and want me to pick it up the next day. So I go to pick the car up today and the sales guy says he's got good news and bad news. Good news is the alarm works fantastically, bad news is the reason he knows is because someone tried to take it last night! The door had been slim jimed, hood popped open, horn wires cut, and the plastic around the steering column broke off, but the guy couldn't take it! The wireless immobilizer wasn't even installed yet. So the worst that happened was a broken piece of plastic which the stereo place is fixing for free anyway.
Thought I might just be paranoid when I bought the alarm (was fairly pricey), but it's already paid for itself in 24 hours. Anyway, thought you guys might want a story that brings a little hope when it comes to stolen ITRs.
P.S. I found out later that the reason the car was out in the open at night in the first place was because it wasn't thought to be "high enough priority" to be one of the 5 cars put inside their shop. Good plan
Now getting to the story, I take it to my local stereo place and give them a day to get the alarm in. Ofcourse, at 6:30 I get a call saying they can't finish and want me to pick it up the next day. So I go to pick the car up today and the sales guy says he's got good news and bad news. Good news is the alarm works fantastically, bad news is the reason he knows is because someone tried to take it last night! The door had been slim jimed, hood popped open, horn wires cut, and the plastic around the steering column broke off, but the guy couldn't take it! The wireless immobilizer wasn't even installed yet. So the worst that happened was a broken piece of plastic which the stereo place is fixing for free anyway.
Thought I might just be paranoid when I bought the alarm (was fairly pricey), but it's already paid for itself in 24 hours. Anyway, thought you guys might want a story that brings a little hope when it comes to stolen ITRs.
P.S. I found out later that the reason the car was out in the open at night in the first place was because it wasn't thought to be "high enough priority" to be one of the 5 cars put inside their shop. Good plan
Just shy of $900.00 for everything. Wireless immobilizer $100.00, tilt sensor $50.00. Intelligard 850 comes with a lot of other cool stuff too (ie. blackjack). Worth every penny in my book now...
hmmm.. at the car stereo place I worked at we usually didn't keep cars overnight, we usually worked hard to finish them. Sounds to me like an inside job. Not neccessarily the guy who called you, but probably one of the workers saw the car there and gave a call to one of his buddys. Everytime my car is getting worked on I get suspicious when they want to leave the car overnight. I dropped off my car for an alignment and oil change in the morning and went to work. When I got back I called and they said they would have to keep it overnight. I said forget it and I was going to pick it up and low and behold it was finished when I got there 2 minutes later. Be carefull with your car, it really can't be stressed enough. Your car was saved because of those things you installed, but keep in mind thieves can always flatbed your car and those things you installed will be useless. I hope you didn't give the stereo place your real address. LoL, anyway welcome to honda-tech.
edit: that's bs, I don't think a place would leave an itr outside unless they had other motives.
edit: that's bs, I don't think a place would leave an itr outside unless they had other motives.
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car toys here in WA is known for
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You're telling me. I had no desire to, but the place had me by the ***** since my car 's interior was sitting all over their shop.
car toys here in WA is known for
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You're telling me. I had no desire to, but the place had me by the ***** since my car 's interior was sitting all over their shop.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLCTyper »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're telling me. I had no desire to, but the place had me by the ***** since my car 's interior was sitting all over their shop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You don't need an interior to drive the car home at night.
You don't need an interior to drive the car home at night.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra4lyfe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm.. at the car stereo place I worked at we usually didn't keep cars overnight, we usually worked hard to finish them. Sounds to me like an inside job. Not neccessarily the guy who called you, but probably one of the workers saw the car there and gave a call to one of his buddys. Everytime my car is getting worked on I get suspicious when they want to leave the car overnight. I dropped off my car for an alignment and oil change in the morning and went to work. When I got back I called and they said they would have to keep it overnight. I said forget it and I was going to pick it up and low and behold it was finished when I got there 2 minutes later. Be carefull with your car, it really can't be stressed enough. Your car was saved because of those things you installed, but keep in mind thieves can always flatbed your car and those things you installed will be useless. I hope you didn't give the stereo place your real address. LoL, anyway welcome to honda-tech.
edit: that's bs, I don't think a place would leave an itr outside unless they had other motives.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the welcome. That idea crossed my mind, but that doesn't make sense. If it was one of the guys there, they had all the information to get around what they installed. I honestly think that they were just stupid enough that they had no idea what an ITR is and thought it was just some crappy integra they could leave outside. If it were truely an inside job, I think it would be gone. I live in Utah and there is only one other CW ITR (that I know of) in the state. It's the only one this shop has seen. The sales guy wasn't even aware there were real Type Rs in the U.S.!
edit: that's bs, I don't think a place would leave an itr outside unless they had other motives.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the welcome. That idea crossed my mind, but that doesn't make sense. If it was one of the guys there, they had all the information to get around what they installed. I honestly think that they were just stupid enough that they had no idea what an ITR is and thought it was just some crappy integra they could leave outside. If it were truely an inside job, I think it would be gone. I live in Utah and there is only one other CW ITR (that I know of) in the state. It's the only one this shop has seen. The sales guy wasn't even aware there were real Type Rs in the U.S.!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by top fuel »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bad place till leave ur car overnight at an stereo/alarm store
car toys here in WA is known for
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Which ones??
car toys here in WA is known for
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Which ones??
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You don't need an interior to drive the car home at night.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're acting like I knew they were going to leave it outside all night. It isn't like I've never gone to this place before. It's a big shop with a garage that has 5 or 6 bays. I've left cars with them before and they put them inside, but they already had several cars occupying the bays (unknown to me). If I knew the car was sitting outside all night, then yeah, interior or not, it would have been in my garage.
You don't need an interior to drive the car home at night.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're acting like I knew they were going to leave it outside all night. It isn't like I've never gone to this place before. It's a big shop with a garage that has 5 or 6 bays. I've left cars with them before and they put them inside, but they already had several cars occupying the bays (unknown to me). If I knew the car was sitting outside all night, then yeah, interior or not, it would have been in my garage.
In general, it's good practice to be extra cautious with car stereo/alarm shops. It's a common scam for shops like these to make copies of keys of rare cars (i.e. the type R) and sell them to whoever
tha'ts good to hear that your R didn't get stolen, but just don't rely on any old alarm, alarms are only theift deterrent devices. in the end, if they relaly want it, they'll take it.
Sounds fishy, Im going to suspect that it wasn't an inside job because they were the ones that installed the thing, if that was the case the car would most likely be gone. If it were stolen my first suspect would be the sterio shop.
Just be glad it's not gone.
Just be glad it's not gone.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quikB18B »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds fishy, Im going to suspect that it wasn't an inside job because they were the ones that installed the thing, if that was the case the car would most likely be gone. If it were stolen my first suspect would be the sterio shop.
Just be glad it's not gone. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said, I bet it was someone who tipped off a friend about the type-r, not necccessarily the whole stereo place was in on it, all it takes is one dirt bag. Growing up in the burbs I was really unaware of all this shady stuff, all it took was to own a teg to open my eyes and now I'm paranoid as hell. I suspect anyone and everyone
Anyway, it seems like you got a good security, all you need now is a garage (so they can't tow it) and you will sleep really well at night
Just be glad it's not gone. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Like I said, I bet it was someone who tipped off a friend about the type-r, not necccessarily the whole stereo place was in on it, all it takes is one dirt bag. Growing up in the burbs I was really unaware of all this shady stuff, all it took was to own a teg to open my eyes and now I'm paranoid as hell. I suspect anyone and everyone
Anyway, it seems like you got a good security, all you need now is a garage (so they can't tow it) and you will sleep really well at night
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first off you make no mention to the alarm place that your car needs to be placed inside. this would have been the first thing i would have demanded the place do...<< your mistake for not thinking ahead.
also make sure the two fuses for the alarm are wired from the engine to the alarm. and not from the under dash wires to the alarm. you can PM and ask why.
also it is a good idea to also have your negative and positive wires connected from the battery to the brain, and not from the wires under the dash.. hence if they have a ground wire hooked under the bolts for your steering column? take that wire off ground and tell me what happens to your alarm.....
also if you remove your gauge cluster you will see a nice pocket where you can put your brain. it is surounded by metal from the bottom and sides and there is no way anyone can mess with the brain, except if they have time to remove your dash and gauge cluster....
and remember to also route the siren wires from this pocket into the engine. it only takes one snip of the wires to disable your siren. as you now know.
and i have my wires wrapped in metal so this would be a good option aswell..
time consuming yes, but will it slow a thief down.. yes
think ahead bro and realize all possibilities... hopefully you wont be here posting a stolen thread
also make sure the two fuses for the alarm are wired from the engine to the alarm. and not from the under dash wires to the alarm. you can PM and ask why.
also it is a good idea to also have your negative and positive wires connected from the battery to the brain, and not from the wires under the dash.. hence if they have a ground wire hooked under the bolts for your steering column? take that wire off ground and tell me what happens to your alarm.....
also if you remove your gauge cluster you will see a nice pocket where you can put your brain. it is surounded by metal from the bottom and sides and there is no way anyone can mess with the brain, except if they have time to remove your dash and gauge cluster....
and remember to also route the siren wires from this pocket into the engine. it only takes one snip of the wires to disable your siren. as you now know.
and i have my wires wrapped in metal so this would be a good option aswell..
time consuming yes, but will it slow a thief down.. yes
think ahead bro and realize all possibilities... hopefully you wont be here posting a stolen thread
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Thought I might just be paranoid when I bought the alarm (was fairly pricey), but it's already paid for itself in 24 hours. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No it hasn't. Firstly, if you had not had it installed, you would not have had your car steering column screwed with. Secondly, the only reason you car was not stolen is that the thief was an amateur - it had nothing to do with the alarm, which was not even fully installed yet. A professional would have had your car, alarm or not.
If you look through the stolen threads for the past few years you will see that 95%+ of cars that were stolen had alarms, many of them $1k+ units.
I would ask for my $900 back and spend it on beer and pizza.
Thought I might just be paranoid when I bought the alarm (was fairly pricey), but it's already paid for itself in 24 hours. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No it hasn't. Firstly, if you had not had it installed, you would not have had your car steering column screwed with. Secondly, the only reason you car was not stolen is that the thief was an amateur - it had nothing to do with the alarm, which was not even fully installed yet. A professional would have had your car, alarm or not.
If you look through the stolen threads for the past few years you will see that 95%+ of cars that were stolen had alarms, many of them $1k+ units.
I would ask for my $900 back and spend it on beer and pizza.
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You don't need an interior to drive the car home at night.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Or to drive to work for a few weeks while in the middle of a stereo install for that matter. My friends would get in my car and not know what the hell happened to it. I would be pretty angry at the service if I were you (breaking stuff, leaving car outside...).
Glad you got an alarm you're happy with though. For future reference, it might not be a great idea telling everyone which exact system you have. Or maybe I'm paranoid.
You don't need an interior to drive the car home at night.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Or to drive to work for a few weeks while in the middle of a stereo install for that matter. My friends would get in my car and not know what the hell happened to it. I would be pretty angry at the service if I were you (breaking stuff, leaving car outside...).
Glad you got an alarm you're happy with though. For future reference, it might not be a great idea telling everyone which exact system you have. Or maybe I'm paranoid.
You alarm didn't pay for itself at all, since your the one working for the money in the first place. Second of all, if you wouldnt have been to the stereo place to get it installed, there's no way in hell someone would have tried to steal it from their shops parking, now would there? unless you would have parked it there for fun instead of your garage.
Forget anyone who is telling you it's not worth it....
The only thing I don't understand about threads like these are people who go "Yeah, I have the same alarm on my car!" Yeah! You just told a ton of people all about your security!
Why in the hell would you do that? Keep your security secret.
The only thing I don't understand about threads like these are people who go "Yeah, I have the same alarm on my car!" Yeah! You just told a ton of people all about your security!
Why in the hell would you do that? Keep your security secret.
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No it hasn't. Firstly, if you had not had it installed, you would not have had your car steering column screwed with. Secondly, the only reason you car was not stolen is that the thief was an amateur - it had nothing to do with the alarm, which was not even fully installed yet. A professional would have had your car, alarm or not.
If you look through the stolen threads for the past few years you will see that 95%+ of cars that were stolen had alarms, many of them $1k+ units.
I would ask for my $900 back and spend it on beer and pizza.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type R 98-870 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You alarm didn't pay for itself at all, since your the one working for the money in the first place. Second of all, if you wouldnt have been to the stereo place to get it installed, there's no way in hell someone would have tried to steal it from their shops parking, now would there? unless you would have parked it there for fun instead of your garage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Am I missing something here? These posts are both asinine. First off, do both of you think that insurance is some kind of magic way to collect money or something? If my car was stolen, considering the blue book value, my insurance company would probably give me about .02 more than jack **** for it. If spending $900 on my car kept it in my possession as opposed to getting the worthless check from the insurance for it, as far as I am concerned, it DID just pay for itself. As far as norice's post...I don't even know where to begin. So you're saying that NOT having an alarm installed is a better way to go so when someone does break into it they can take it instead of break a $60.00 piece of plastic on it? Or that it is only a REAL theft if a professional tries to take your car instead of an amateur? It doesn't suprise me you think it's a good idea to get your $900 back and spend it on beer and pizza. For Type R 98-870's post, the reason it was at a shop getting installed is because there are some of us who have lives and do more than work part time and live with our parents. 1/2 a day of time to tear my car apart and install an alarm is hard to come by. In addition, I didn't feel like installing an alarm myself (voiding warranty/guarantee) and I have the $ to get it intalled if I feel like it. Did you get all of that? If either of you have any more intelligent questions or comments like "how much pizza and beer does $900.00 buy?", "do you even know how to do anything to your car?", or "I think your a dumbass because someone left your car outside while they were working on it", PM me.
No it hasn't. Firstly, if you had not had it installed, you would not have had your car steering column screwed with. Secondly, the only reason you car was not stolen is that the thief was an amateur - it had nothing to do with the alarm, which was not even fully installed yet. A professional would have had your car, alarm or not.
If you look through the stolen threads for the past few years you will see that 95%+ of cars that were stolen had alarms, many of them $1k+ units.
I would ask for my $900 back and spend it on beer and pizza.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type R 98-870 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You alarm didn't pay for itself at all, since your the one working for the money in the first place. Second of all, if you wouldnt have been to the stereo place to get it installed, there's no way in hell someone would have tried to steal it from their shops parking, now would there? unless you would have parked it there for fun instead of your garage.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Am I missing something here? These posts are both asinine. First off, do both of you think that insurance is some kind of magic way to collect money or something? If my car was stolen, considering the blue book value, my insurance company would probably give me about .02 more than jack **** for it. If spending $900 on my car kept it in my possession as opposed to getting the worthless check from the insurance for it, as far as I am concerned, it DID just pay for itself. As far as norice's post...I don't even know where to begin. So you're saying that NOT having an alarm installed is a better way to go so when someone does break into it they can take it instead of break a $60.00 piece of plastic on it? Or that it is only a REAL theft if a professional tries to take your car instead of an amateur? It doesn't suprise me you think it's a good idea to get your $900 back and spend it on beer and pizza. For Type R 98-870's post, the reason it was at a shop getting installed is because there are some of us who have lives and do more than work part time and live with our parents. 1/2 a day of time to tear my car apart and install an alarm is hard to come by. In addition, I didn't feel like installing an alarm myself (voiding warranty/guarantee) and I have the $ to get it intalled if I feel like it. Did you get all of that? If either of you have any more intelligent questions or comments like "how much pizza and beer does $900.00 buy?", "do you even know how to do anything to your car?", or "I think your a dumbass because someone left your car outside while they were working on it", PM me.



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