Quaife LSD Fluid
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Quaife LSD Fluid
Just build my tranny with 3-4 syncros,bearings,and quaife lsd. Which fluid type would be recommened ive heard the gm syncromesh and honda mtf are both good but the gm is better if it already grinds.
Well what about redline fluid?
Are all three of these fluid work good with the QUAIFE LSD?
Also the GM Syncromesh can I use the FM or the regular with the LSD?
Im looking for fluid as preventive maintance, not to use the honda mtf to start then switch if it starts to grind? Let me know you!
Well what about redline fluid?
Are all three of these fluid work good with the QUAIFE LSD?
Also the GM Syncromesh can I use the FM or the regular with the LSD?
Im looking for fluid as preventive maintance, not to use the honda mtf to start then switch if it starts to grind? Let me know you!
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Ive tried GM and I now use Silktran 5. IMO theres no comparison, Incredible stuff!
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Re: (purplegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you end up getting GM Syncromesh, get the Friction Modified version since you run an LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why? a quaife is gear driven....
"lsd fluid" is made for clutch-pack lsd's. Then again, everyone else around here is spending too much money for tranny fluid so why should you be any different...
Why? a quaife is gear driven....
"lsd fluid" is made for clutch-pack lsd's. Then again, everyone else around here is spending too much money for tranny fluid so why should you be any different...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why? a quaife is gear driven....
"lsd fluid" is made for clutch-pack lsd's. Then again, everyone else around here is spending too much money for tranny fluid so why should you be any different...
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You are right, didn't read the Quaife part (not sure how, maybe my eyes aren't working). With any gear driven LSD you don't need Friction modifiers in your fluid. But if you want some Syncromesh for cheap, you can ask this dude:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=803396
or buy Pennzoil Syncromesh (its like $3 a bottle), same as the GM non-FM version
Why? a quaife is gear driven....
"lsd fluid" is made for clutch-pack lsd's. Then again, everyone else around here is spending too much money for tranny fluid so why should you be any different...
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You are right, didn't read the Quaife part (not sure how, maybe my eyes aren't working). With any gear driven LSD you don't need Friction modifiers in your fluid. But if you want some Syncromesh for cheap, you can ask this dude:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=803396
or buy Pennzoil Syncromesh (its like $3 a bottle), same as the GM non-FM version
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Re: (purplegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you end up getting GM Syncromesh, get the Friction Modified version since you run an LSD.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You said in your first post to use the friction modified but in the second post to use the regular and not the FM, since i had LSD!
Which one is better?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are right, didn't read the Quaife part (not sure how, maybe my eyes aren't working). With any gear driven LSD you don't need Friction modifiers in your fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nevermind i understand now, you dont need the Friction Modifiers but can you and are they bettter than the regular?
You said in your first post to use the friction modified but in the second post to use the regular and not the FM, since i had LSD!
Which one is better?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are right, didn't read the Quaife part (not sure how, maybe my eyes aren't working). With any gear driven LSD you don't need Friction modifiers in your fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nevermind i understand now, you dont need the Friction Modifiers but can you and are they bettter than the regular?
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Let me see, I guess it's your choice, this is my understanding of the whole thing.
With the clutch type LSDs that share fluid with your transmission, like those on SRT-4s, Type Rs, etc, you would need a transmission fluid that also contains a friction modifier.
If you have a gear driven LSD (like a Quaife) you have no need for friction modifiers in your tranny fluid.
A Mustang with a clutch type LSD will be supplied fluid via the differential, so they make differential fluid with FM in it. Their tranny fluid is not needed by the LSD.
I did a lot of reading before putting Syncromesh in my non-LSD equipped GSR tranny, and decided that I did not need the Friction Modified Syncromesh because I don't have an LSD at all and it is also thought to be not so great for your syncros. So I went with the non-FM version.
If I were you, I would go with non-FM Syncromesh made by Pennzoil. Your syncros will be good and so will your LSD, best of both worlds.
With the clutch type LSDs that share fluid with your transmission, like those on SRT-4s, Type Rs, etc, you would need a transmission fluid that also contains a friction modifier.
If you have a gear driven LSD (like a Quaife) you have no need for friction modifiers in your tranny fluid.
A Mustang with a clutch type LSD will be supplied fluid via the differential, so they make differential fluid with FM in it. Their tranny fluid is not needed by the LSD.
I did a lot of reading before putting Syncromesh in my non-LSD equipped GSR tranny, and decided that I did not need the Friction Modified Syncromesh because I don't have an LSD at all and it is also thought to be not so great for your syncros. So I went with the non-FM version.
If I were you, I would go with non-FM Syncromesh made by Pennzoil. Your syncros will be good and so will your LSD, best of both worlds.
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Re: (crxhybrid1320)
Yeah, basically you are supposed to use a non-friction modified fluid. So you can get the stuff in the Round Bottle, or the Yellow Pennzoil Syncromesh (same):
GM part# 12345349 (on the right - NON FM)
GM Part# 12377916 (on the left - FM)
Honda MTF is always good though, and cheap!
GM part# 12345349 (on the right - NON FM)
GM Part# 12377916 (on the left - FM)
Honda MTF is always good though, and cheap!
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Re: (purplegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me see, I guess it's your choice, this is my understanding of the whole thing.
With the clutch type LSDs that share fluid with your transmission, like those on SRT-4s, Type Rs, etc, you would need a transmission fluid that also contains a friction modifier.
If you have a gear driven LSD (like a Quaife) you have no need for friction modifiers in your tranny fluid.
A Mustang with a clutch type LSD will be supplied fluid via the differential, so they make differential fluid with FM in it. Their tranny fluid is not needed by the LSD.
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The SRT-4 uses a Quaife unit, and the Type R uses a factory honda LSD which is a helical gear type as well, then why would you have to use a friction modifier, just pointing it out
With the clutch type LSDs that share fluid with your transmission, like those on SRT-4s, Type Rs, etc, you would need a transmission fluid that also contains a friction modifier.
If you have a gear driven LSD (like a Quaife) you have no need for friction modifiers in your tranny fluid.
A Mustang with a clutch type LSD will be supplied fluid via the differential, so they make differential fluid with FM in it. Their tranny fluid is not needed by the LSD.
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The SRT-4 uses a Quaife unit, and the Type R uses a factory honda LSD which is a helical gear type as well, then why would you have to use a friction modifier, just pointing it out
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Re: (purplegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you have a gear driven LSD (like a Quaife) you have no need for friction modifiers in your tranny fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are right on the ball!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did a lot of reading before putting Syncromesh in my non-LSD equipped GSR tranny, and decided that I did not need the Friction Modified Syncromesh because I don't have an LSD at all and it is also thought to be not so great for your syncros. So I went with the non-FM version.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pennzoil Syncromesh is great lubricant. It is roughly equivalent to 30w gear oil.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were you, I would go with non-FM Syncromesh made by Pennzoil. Your syncros will be good and so will your LSD, best of both worlds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And, longer oil change intervals also.
If you have a gear driven LSD (like a Quaife) you have no need for friction modifiers in your tranny fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are right on the ball!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did a lot of reading before putting Syncromesh in my non-LSD equipped GSR tranny, and decided that I did not need the Friction Modified Syncromesh because I don't have an LSD at all and it is also thought to be not so great for your syncros. So I went with the non-FM version.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Pennzoil Syncromesh is great lubricant. It is roughly equivalent to 30w gear oil.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by purplegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I were you, I would go with non-FM Syncromesh made by Pennzoil. Your syncros will be good and so will your LSD, best of both worlds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And, longer oil change intervals also.
or no good at all?
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