i am gonna build either a 1.5 L 91 DX block with an SI head or my SI block A6) with the SI head. i want to do it all crank.. rods ,the whole deal, please list what u think the best parts are and where to get them for best price. this will be my street car to drive so it has to run semi normal but i want as much power from it as possible. non turbo. non nitrous... so list away. parts for head too.. how about ecu ? mods? mani too

mike

 

http://www.exospeed.comBlock, Head work
http://www.an-r.com/headers/d-series.html Header

Or BISI.

 

if thats from the rex, the engine is already partly built up, throw a turbo on it and use ghettodyne to tune the ecu, thats what i was gonna do

 

please to freaken search!!!
I know there are like 25+ threads about d16 na all motor

IM exospeed and he will give you the lowdown on best bang for buck goo fast goodies.

ask ask yourself WHY do you want to spend a ***** load of money on d16a6? what is your porpouse or cruesade?...

spending 7k on a fully build. high compression NA d16 (165+whp and 115tq) and getting spanked by another stock EK ex with greddy kit boosting at 5psi would not be a good feeling unless you can handle it.

 

build your D16A6!...gotta show love for the d-series!

 

here's my idea on makeing your d16a6 fast........ use search and dont waste everyones time on topics that have like 50 threads on them.

 

add another cam

 

sorry to get off topic, with bisi's header do people usually get an exhaust bolted up, or is it usually just running straight out?

 

if you were smart u would built, a z6 block with da piston's (p29) with a a6 head,performer x IM,b16a TB,h,i,e, mid 14's with a good clutch

 

Get a y8 head with a z6 fuel rail and intake manifold. The y8 will give you high compression and should almost make as much torque as a b16a then you use the z6 stuff to convert to obd1 get a z6 computer and your ready to go. home that helps. Oh yeah get a header intake and exhaust and that setup should rip.


DEF

 

Ok, I don't wanna see anyone else say search in this thread. I've spent countless hours looking on information on this board, d-series.org, honda-acura.net, ef-honda.com, crxsi.com, clubsi.com....and there isn't much info out there about building up an all motor d16a6.

Get yourself a nice cam and of course the valve train to support it. Exospeed seems to have some great packages. I got my package in my sig from a friend, who got it from a friend, so I got it for the cheap third owner but never used price. People say the 272 cam is too much for street use, but I use it daily. Exospeed's race cam is somewhat like the 272, grind is similar, probably better results, I wouldn't know I've yet to get my car dyno'd and try the exospeed which I plan on doing as well.

As for spending $7k on an all motor d16a6? Maybe if your going hardcore and it's not a street vehicle. An exospeed head is what, $1275-2000? And if u can do any of that work yourself, of have hookups, you'll save $$ too of course, you could just get their stuff and have a friend that can port or something. Blocks from them range from ~$1500-3000 depending on how hardcore you wanna go.

So that's around $5000 if you had someone else do the work. Buy the stuff yourself and do the work yourself you'll save some more (although I have heard great things about exospeed) Heh, ok, so maybe you might end up with a $7000 bill from all this, but that's if you don't find any good deals haha. Glad I got hooked up on my head.

So far I have around $7-800 in this mods in my sig. All I have left is to build up a block and get her dyno'd so I'm thinking another $1000 or under and I'll be set.

 

ok here is my idea...

d16a6:
exospeed block, rebuild properly. nothing fancy like blue-printing or micro polishing the crank ect.
eagle rods
apr rod bolts
75mm Wescio 11.5+ compression ratio pistion
bored and sleeved by exospeed/RSmachines

headwork done by exospeed/RSmachines
nothing too fancy, just the normal 3angle valve job
rev valves
exospeed valvetrain
exospeed strip cam....(idles lumpy at like 1200-1600rpms) from what I've heard
skunk2 IM
overbored TB to 59-60mm atleast
cam gear (skunk2, aem, golden eagle, str, ect)
exospeed/Bisi header .... or ANR header (no mass produced ****)
cleaned stock 240cc injector should be fine
cleaned stock OEM fuel rail is more than fine
b&M fpr & gauge
apexi afc hack..... for better tunning
might want to get a newer walbro 195lph ($85ish) intake fuel pump cause last thing you want to happen is a nice motor & your fuel pump crapping out on you blowing up your invested money/motor.

si tranny
ats final drive
lsd... hardcore...
stock axles should be fine
get aleast a exedy race clutch

that's just the basic goodies I would personally go for if and when i build a mild street d16 that should be able to beat stock b16a...
this should make about 155-160whp... and still only about 115-117 in tq.....

HTH

 

wow good decent list.


just don't go with anything GUDE... hahah ROTFLMAO

 

if you arent part of the solution wildman you are part of the problem so just shut up and let people who have helpful ideas give him advice on a d16. If you want to build a nice little motor up i really suggest you get a d16a6 and get a y8 head. you can make good power. I've seen a guy that lives near me do this setup and in a crx he in 13.9s with slicks. Now if you think that b16a will do that for the money go ahead and buy a b16. I know after the b18c is done I'm going to get me a 84-87 crx and do a d16a6 with a y8 head. The setup kicks butt and its not that expensive.

DEF

 

thanks to those who helped and those who talk alot can go fu*k them selves.. and no i dont have a DX i have a 90 SI with a good motor that is already quick how i have the car setup.. i just want some opinions... some people are so immature and ignorant..

 

Mr. Davis! I guess you were born with a golden spoon in your mouth werent you? Thats whats wrong with the world now days, its ignorant people like you. If the man wants to build a D series then so be it. This web site is for helping people, getting ideas, selling parts etc. I think you should be banned for being such a little bitch. Maybe someday you will grow up and act like an adult because you damn sure arent now.

 

Boy,oh,boy Wildman! Did some one **** in your cheerios? People like you should not breeth. Not every thing in the world revolves around the almighty B. Their are people out there who want to be different and not be a "sheeple" and build a D series. I am one of those "D" people and damn proud of it.

 

wild davis dude....

hey bro that was way on called for. It's not like he's trying to build a 87 carb d series motor out of a 87 civic si.... common
d16 are decent motors

Also you need to stop the flaming... you have a point but they way you said it makes you look like and ***.


I have b18c ef but i still respect the d series guys. you STFU

 

Besides all that b-series what not. I really dont thnik the point of this thread was to tell him to buy b series. I thnik we all know the b series motors have more potential...yay bandwagon!!!

I think its cool people are starting to build d series motors. It something that can set you apart from the bandwagon bitches like wildman.

Btw: Dont use a vtec head...there is no sense in it...the a6 head actually outflows the vtec heads. ask bisi. Plus if you do run vtec you will hae to find a way to activate it in your obd0 crx.

You could convert to obd1 and run a vtec head...but i think to save a lil cash to more into the motor keep it obd0.

My next project is going to definetly be a a6 build up like you are plannin on doing. Those are some good numbers that people are putting down. NOt to mention how much lighter the motor is compared to b series.

Dont give up and go bseries...no fun in that

Apexichilds setup would be a good one to follow for guidelines.

 

buy my p29 zc pistons... $110 shipped..

 

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Whats the condition? rings?

 

the D16A6 is a good platform. You can do so much with the head and cam. And with a nice combination on the head with a nice compression on the bottom end. that D16A6 will make the car fun to drive.

You all know we like the D-series, but we love the B-series as well. Both are great motors to build up. If you are in this hobby to be the fastest and be faster than the next guy. You are in this sport for the wrong reason. There is no fun in that and there will always be a faster guy than you. It doesnt matter which motor you build, whether its a D16 or a B18. A good builder can do both. If a shop or anyone else tells you to "SWAP" cuz the D sucks, all that says to me is lack of knowledge in building a D-series.

 

pm sent. anyone else interested...?let me know!!

 

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skunk2 IM
overbored TB to 59-60mm atleast

get aleast a exedy race clutch

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Has anyone had any experience with the skunk2 or edelbrock IM via all motor? What about the y8? I've heard that these manifolds wont do much for all motor vs turbo. I'm trying to decide myself to get a y8 and do an overbored tb and port match to 60mm or just stick with my a6 and do the overbore and match.

Also, for the amount of torque you'll be producing I don't think you'll really need much more than say, an exedy OEM replacement clutch. Don't need to go with a racing clutch. I would get a new clutch in the build up though, couldn't hurt and not much via clutchcityonline (around $100). Maybe a lightened flywheel, but I don't think you'll need an upgraded clutch.

 

I am running a skunk2 manifold with a 60mm b18b throttle body. The power band is much smoother and i notice alot more on top end. Didnt notice any loss in torque like some people say.

Im also running an 8lb flywheel with a ACT street/strip clutch. Works well no complaints. REVS LIke a ****. I love it.