Ok, so I start my car in the morning, and it starts fine. I drive it for awhile and I'll park it, do my business, come back, and the car turns over and doesn't start. It sounds like it's out of gas, but it isn't. I was told by a Honda tech to open the windows and doors and cool off the cabin temp and it'll start. Well that worked but I dont' think that was what did it. I've had to jump start it many times, and don't know what it is. I replaced the fuel injectors, so that can't be it.......help!!!

 

if the motor will turn over but not start, and you need to jump it.....id say battery....

 

i would try a main relay. if it is hot outside, the main relay may be f*ed up. i have seen this alot on 90-93 accords

 

HAVE U HAD THE TIMIMG DONE RECENTLY? HAVE U CHANGEDF THE SPARKPLUGS? CHCK WIRES TOO..

 

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good god man stop yelling!

i would have to agree with the jumping of the battery...ALWAYS start with the easiest stuff...because 75% of the time...its something measily and ridiculous and you **** your pants and want to kill yourself everytime you spend 300 bucks just to find out all you had to do was tighten a nut...

 

I am pretty sure that it's not the battery. It is more of an "out of gas" sound. If it were the battery wouldn't it whine and not want to turn over? I was told it was in the electrical...but I have no clue where to start....

 

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remove and test

 

Are ur dash lights acting funny too ? if yeah then it could be ur alternator

 

The only light that is on a lot is the "PGMFi" light. I replaced the fuel injectors, and now I'm lost for ideas on why that light is on. I can feel it when I drive it that something is up with the fuel injection, but I have no clue as to what it is. It has a new alternator....

 

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What code does it have stored?

 

another vote here for the main relay. That would be the PGM-FI main relay. It supplies power to the electric fuel pump. Have a friend turn the key to "on"(not start) and put your ear on the rear bottom seat cushion and listen for the fuel pump hum to pressurize the system. If you can't hear the pump hummmm, it's the main relay. It happens in hot weather, after the car has recently run. The car will start and run for a few seconds are the remaining pressurized fuel in the lines is used up. I've fixed the problem in an 87 Accord, 90 Crx, 90 Accord, 91 Integra, 93 Civic, and 93 Accord. I'd bet it's your problem...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nuc79 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another vote here for the main relay. That would be the PGM-FI main relay. It supplies power to the electric fuel pump. Have a friend turn the key to "on"(not start) and put your ear on the rear bottom seat cushion and listen for the fuel pump hum to pressurize the system. If you can't hear the pump hummmm, it's the main relay. It happens in hot weather, after the car has recently run. The car will start and run for a few seconds are the remaining pressurized fuel in the lines is used up. I've fixed the problem in an 87 Accord, 90 Crx, 90 Accord, 91 Integra, 93 Civic, and 93 Accord. I'd bet it's your problem...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok.....so if I were to find it faulty..how do I fix it? My cooling fan goes on for a few minutes when I turn it off when it's hot.....but I don't think that's what you are talkin about.....

 

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Ok.....so if I were to find it faulty..how do I fix it? My cooling fan goes on for a few minutes when I turn it off when it's hot.....but I don't think that's what you are talkin about.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do a google search for "fix honda main relay". That's how I fix my problems as they pop up: Search, read and learn. Very few people will spoon feed you the answers. Here's one of the dozens of helpful links I found by doing the simple search suggested above:

http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm

If you don't feel like repairing it, or don't have a soldering iron, or soldering skills, I have a good relay I'll send you for $20 shipped. They're about $50-60 new.

And the fans are supposed to sometimes come on and cool the engine down even after the car is off. My accord has a warning sticker about it under the hood. It's normal and has nothing to do with the main relay.

 

I have the UBER sweer main relay mod.... its hanging down.... it went out before i bought the car. the chick stopped paying on the car when she was like 3 payments from paying it off because the car wouldnt start sometimes... it was the main relay... they replaced it but they left it hanging down... it seems to add more power than stickers! MAIN RELAY hanging MOD OWNZ J00!

 

Thanks if that's the problem I will have to take you up on that offer. I will check it out tomorrow....Thanks a million...I'll keep ya posted.

~Justina~

 

i'll go with the main relay too.

p.s. on a lllllllloooonnngggg shot it could be an ECT--engine coolant temperature-- sensor also.. but i'd bet money on the main relay.

 

I think it's my main relay as I did what you guys said to do and I don't hear anything.....I may have to take you up on that relay..but I'll have to find out which one I need as there are 2 possibliites for my model of Accord.

 

I only see ONE for a 1986 LXi 4dr 5spd:

http://www.slhondaparts.com/br...3-003

Part # 39400-SE3-003 at any local honda dealer. Make sure you let them know it's fuel injected, because there's probably a diff relay for the carb model.

 

Is that the one that you have?? I'll have to see if I can get it off ya...I need to come into $20 and I"ll contact you.

The reason I thought there were 2 is because I went to AutoZone to look it up and the guy said there were 2 in the computer, but looks to me like you're right


Modified by Beat2Shit at 7:58 PM 3/23/2004

 

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EDIT:Oops, I just checked, and the one I have is part# 39400-SH3-003 vs your 39400-SE3-003, according to the link below. Not sure if it will work, but I could take a picture of it.

Yes, except mine came from my 1990 CRX, same part (see here: http://www.slhondaparts.com/br...3-003 ), and was meticulously re-soldered using the skills I paid 4yrs of tuition to acquire No, seriously though, I'm an Electrical Engineer.

These early relays had a problem with "dry solder joints", which is why the failure is usually intermittent, and usually in the summertime when the heat causes the joints to expand. I have re-conditioned several of them, and never had one fail that I've fixed. Just paypal me $20 and I'll have it on the way to you. And if you decide to send your old broken relay to me, I'll give you $10 back.

Oh and the average AutoZone guy only knows what the computer tells him. ANd the computer is often wrong.


Modified by nuc79 at 3:26 PM 3/23/2004

 

OK, so after the 5th I'll be ordering one from ya....if you still have it then....

Thanks!!
Justina

 

my 91 accord is having the same problem. did changing the relay fix your problem? and my check engine light also came on too!

 

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What trouble code does it have stored?

 

actually it's my friend's car, so i don't know what the code is.

 

if it does turn out to be the main relay, chances are there's not any trouble code.

telltale signs: you won't be able to hear the fuel pump kick on under the rear seat when the key is turned to "on" (or "II", can't remember which). Also, the car will crank, but you won't smell raw gas fumes form the tailpipe (i.e., car's not getting gas from the pump).