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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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I seem to have this problem, that when I redline 2 gear and push it in to 3rd it makes a little grind noise but goes right in. Now if I drive normal and and shift from 2nd to 3rd slowly its fine. it only happens when i redline 2-3. Oh yeah i have a centre force dual friction clutch installed by a honda tech. any advice would be great thanks.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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mine does the same, but ive got it worse. its on an m2b4 that i just swapped in and im us synchromesh... i need answers too!!!
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Its weird because it never did that before, and I don't drive the **** out of my car either. It also not a daily driver either it only started to do it a couple of months after the new clutch went in.. I'm a little worried now because i just bought a fmax turbo, i want to get ride of that damn grind.
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Old Mar 19, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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Same exact problem with my car in the same gear. Sounds like the 2-3 upshift is not an unusual problem for lude owners. I think your synchros are shot. I belive its almost a $1,000 to fix because of the labor involved.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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perhaps u dont have enough throw on the clutch pedal with the new clutch, and ur not fullly disnegageing, i would look into that
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 05:34 AM
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trannys are bitch's
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 06:19 AM
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from what i have herd you not supposta shift H duce trannys abouve like 7500... or somthing like that
and H duce trannys are crap anywayz if it is not reverse it is grinding
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22A EG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i have herd you not supposta shift H duce trannys abouve like 7500... or somthing like that
and H duce trannys are crap anywayz if it is not reverse it is grinding </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya I agree a couple months ago my car wouldn't go reverse at all. So I took it to the Toyota dealer where i bought it. They wanted $1600 to fix it but it was covered by the warranty and it only costed me $200 and it took 2 weeks for them to fix it.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Just cause it grinds from 2-3 does that mean that my syncros are shot? all the other gears are fine,and it only happens at redline when it is going into the 3rd gear.
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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each gear has its own synchro
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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could it have to do with the fluid? right now im using GM synchromesh FM am i supposed to use that or just the regular synchromesh?
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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I use the gm synchromesh and i almost forgot that i had a 2-3rd gear grinding problem...
The gm synchromesh too care of it
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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for the first post, are you pushing the clutch pedal all the way in? if your are, could be that the clutch may need to be adjusted. For the second post your problem is the GM synchromesh FM it accelerates synchro wear plain and simple I am sorry you fell for the hype. Gm FM synchromesh cannot be used in a honda tranny let alone an LSD diff.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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well damnit! which fluid do you reccomend Honda MTF? i asked sooo many times and read so many threads to see if it was ok and everyone said yeah... oh well, thank you for bringing this to my attention before it got to late
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Just stick with OEM honda MTF you can't go wrong with OEM.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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trans are bitchs, i found it helps the grinding if u go from second and just barely tap it in 4th then slam it to 3rd and it wont grind.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NoLipRacen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well damnit! which fluid do you reccomend Honda MTF? i asked sooo many times and read so many threads to see if it was ok and everyone said yeah... oh well, thank you for bringing this to my attention before it got to late </TD></TR></TABLE>
i use the regular gm stuff, not the fritction modified type and it works fine
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtek4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just cause it grinds from 2-3 does that mean that my syncros are shot? all the other gears are fine,and it only happens at redline when it is going into the 3rd gear.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not necessarily, so it doesn't happen from 4th to 5th if you're high
in the rpm band when shifting?
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i found it helps the grinding if u go from second and just barely tap it in 4th then slam it to 3rd and it wont grind. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i just double clutch, after awhile you get pretty good at it, hell i dont even realize im doing it anymore, i just do it, damn 5th gear synchro...
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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Are you running any type of short shifter? Ive known this to happen to numerous civics and prelude cuz of shifters. Otherwise, syncromesh works wounders for the grinds. Id say give that a go.
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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nope no short shifter, Forgive me if i sound stupid..but what do u mean syncormesh works wonders?
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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mine does it too.As a matter of fact,all h22 trannies ive had had done that.it will only do it if i try to quik shift,but slowly,it doesnt grind...
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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ya so i guess there is really not much i can do to fix it...other then replace the syncros..
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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If i were you look for recalls online. On my 97 the fifth gear syncros went out. I got it rebuilt under warranty by my local honda dealer. The problem is most dealer will not want to replace it not rebuilt it . So they might replace your tranny under warranty.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 05:11 AM
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i used to have the same 2nd to 3rd grind.

I changed the tranny fluid (castrol 10w-30) and the next day it was gone.

I would say change the tranny fluid & then bleed the clutch, then top it off.

If that doesnt work, then you can worry about the synchros.

theres my .02
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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synchromesh does work wonders for grinds on our cars... but the result is only temporary correct?
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