what would u recommend for a really stiff and no bodyroll ride?

full coilover system
or
koni yellows plus stiff sleeves

please leave brand names and models, thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kbplaya &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would u recommend for a really stiff and no bodyroll ride?

full coilover system
or
koni yellows plus stiff sleeves

please leave brand names and models, thanks
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Koni yellow's with custom rate GC's are a proven setup. Plus you can go as stiff as you want, and its more affordable than a full adjustable coilover setup.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=783327

some people argued over this topic recently in this thread.

I would go with custom rate GCs and Koni's, its a very flexible setup. I have Tein SS coilovers, and it is okay, but I wouldnt describe it as stiff without body roll.

Tanabe Sustec Pros are pretty crazy if you want something really stiff.

 

I'm running Ohlins PCV's, but odds are you don't want to spend that kind of money. If I every get rid of this setup, I'll more than likely go with the Koni's and GC's.

 

I have a set of yellow koni w/groundcontrol with harder spring rate...has the GS's collar for the shocks.

 

if money was no object i would get the JIC FLTA2-RS... it's custom rate to what you want like GC's... but if money was, i'd get the GC with koni's... i myself, is planning to get some GC with custom rates and koni yellows... correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there's any difference with sleeves compare to threaded body shocks

 

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we'll you could just fit the gc's on the koni seats, but cant lower as much cause the cup's in the way, to make it look and ride like a full body coilover, gc's sell an adapter that sits on the koni rings, cost like an extra $100


selling this set for $565 shipped....comes with the energy urethane bushing on top cup

 

What spring rates are the people that have the Koni/GC setup going with? GC reccomended 400/300. I have Koni's right now with Comptech springs and want to go with a custom GC.

Has anyone revalved their Koni's after getting the GC's, and how low are you guys going?

 

I have those spring rates 400/300....

 

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On what shock? How do you like them?

 

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On what shock? How do you like them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yellow koni, I have to loosen the dampening, so the ride is not as ruff, but once you tighten them the car doesnt squat at all for strip/street. with the collar you could lower the car to the ground...

 

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yellow koni, I have to loosen the dampening, so the ride is not as ruff, but once you tighten them the car doesnt squat at all for strip/street. with the collar you could lower the car to the ground...</TD></TR></TABLE>

So you like it or is it to harsh? How low are you set right now and what are your Koni's set at?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94civicEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What spring rates are the people that have the Koni/GC setup going with?</TD></TR></TABLE>

450/400

 

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450/400</TD></TR></TABLE>

How do you like it? How low? What is the car used for?

 

The car is my daily driver. Used to autox and HPDE with it (hopefully i'll get back into it.) I have no complains on track or street. I'm lowered about 2 inches. This is on a 92.

 

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we'll you could just fit the gc's on the koni seats, but cant lower as much cause the cup's in the way, to make it look and ride like a full body coilover, gc's sell an adapter that sits on the koni rings, cost like an extra $100
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No it doesn't, regular GC's are $299 and Koni versions are $339.

Actually GC now makes 2 different sleeves for Koni shocks. This one sits on the snap ring like in your pic:


And this one fits over the entire shock:

 

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No it doesn't, regular GC's are $299 and Koni versions are $339.

Actually GC now makes 2 different sleeves for Koni shocks. This one sits on the snap ring like in your pic:
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lol....this whole forum is just to prove each other wrong....

that means my koni shocks on groundcontrols are a killer deal for $550

 

indeed, my Konis were 500 alone, 2 years ago... I might consider those longer sleeves when I switch my springs out for GC's, I'll have to call them up and see about them.

 

koni yellows
ground controls

comptech sway bar tie bar combo
or
itr sway bar with mount kit.

sway bar is the main thing that will reduce body roll.

ps I always believed skunk2 coil overs were more for track and gc/koni yellows were more for street because of how they rode. the skunk2 set-up is way stiffer.

 

maybe stiffer than the Special Edition GC's, but you can get springs for GC's that are alot stiffer than what comes w/ the S2's.

And IMHO the way the GC sleeves mount up to the Koni shocks 0wnz all other sleeve-type coilovers.

 

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And IMHO the way the GC sleeves mount up to the Koni shocks 0wnz all other sleeve-type coilovers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I totally agree with patrick on this topic. gc's are worth every penny. I don't believe the springs/struts no matter what combo are the only thing you should do to the car to remove body roll. When I changed mine out it was like night and day. I love my set-up.

 

koni/gc; go with those for a cheaper setup that is still good

 

More importantly, what do you plan on doing? Is it going to be tracked, and/or auto'xd alot?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo1z &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">More importantly, what do you plan on doing? Is it going to be tracked, and/or auto'xd alot?</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the most important question.

IMO, if Im spending $800 on a setup, Im getting full coilovers that were designed as one unit. Unless you want custom rates that no other coils offer, I dont see the point in going GC/Koni.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsrdriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you want custom rates that no other coils offer, I dont see the point in going GC/Koni.</TD></TR></TABLE>

unless you already bought koni shocks with springs and are looking for an "upgrade"