DOHC conversion for D16 series engine
Before you get flamed. There is no way to do this since the blocks are quite different in how the head lines up. If you want DOHC, you have to buy a DOHC motor complete, no shortcuts here.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bikerchris13 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Before you get flamed. There is no way to do this since the blocks are quite different in how the head lines up. If you want DOHC, you have to buy a DOHC motor complete, no shortcuts here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
mind you this isn't true for all honda motors
mind you this isn't true for all honda motors
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thenick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
mind you this isn't true for all honda motors </TD></TR></TABLE>
give us some hints here. i just got my civic and i want to know what is out there in swap or anything like that.
mind you this isn't true for all honda motors </TD></TR></TABLE>
give us some hints here. i just got my civic and i want to know what is out there in swap or anything like that.
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The hint is that you'd have to swap in this motor and then swap a dohc head onto it so therefore you'd be doing tons or extra work for no benefits over a stock dohc swap. The motor codes begin with letters farther down the alphabet than B or D
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A certain guy named Bisi might disagree with you on needing to swap a DOHC head on that particular motor.
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Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is that really why? Please. Where do you attain such info? Ill let Bisi know about this post we'll see what he thinks. LOL.
Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is that really why? Please. Where do you attain such info? Ill let Bisi know about this post we'll see what he thinks. LOL.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes and no. Ask Bisi and he will explain to you how a SOHC head flows more than a DOHC head.
Its not just the shock value, he really does believe in these motors.
Keep in mind that his F motor is currently making more hp than Skunk2's K series, although they are admitedly far away from that motor's potential.
Yes and no. Ask Bisi and he will explain to you how a SOHC head flows more than a DOHC head.
Its not just the shock value, he really does believe in these motors.
Keep in mind that his F motor is currently making more hp than Skunk2's K series, although they are admitedly far away from that motor's potential.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Matt, that is not true. In my early D series days, it was a cost issue. When I went pro, I had many options to my disposal with powerplants.
The F series non-vtec head is amazing! High ports, better flow than B-series from factory, relatively cheap, and abundant.
With massaging, the non-vtec F can outflow the best ported K heads out there. By the way, has anyone really studied the exhaust ports of the K20 and K24 engines? Not very pleasant!
The valve angles with the sohc F head are ideal for our type of racing, and there are less frictional losses in the head due to the reduced number of cam caps and load bearing surfaces.
It seems to be in fashion to compare my F to Skunk's K motor. This is not a fair comparison, to say the least. Why not compare my gasoline powerd F to a gasoline powered drag K (oops, there are none), or imagine our powerplant with the resources of the top K motor.
Bottom line is that I am amazed, myself, to the power attained with our F motor, despite barely scratching the surface, no use of exotic fuels, and the simplicity of our set up (carbs and an msd 6). I am also a "one man" building/tuning team. It pays off to do research, than just follow the herd and hence claim superiority!
Just remember that Bisi sticks with SOHC for publicity and 'shock value'. Not because you can make more power with a single cam head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Matt, that is not true. In my early D series days, it was a cost issue. When I went pro, I had many options to my disposal with powerplants.
The F series non-vtec head is amazing! High ports, better flow than B-series from factory, relatively cheap, and abundant.
With massaging, the non-vtec F can outflow the best ported K heads out there. By the way, has anyone really studied the exhaust ports of the K20 and K24 engines? Not very pleasant!
The valve angles with the sohc F head are ideal for our type of racing, and there are less frictional losses in the head due to the reduced number of cam caps and load bearing surfaces.
It seems to be in fashion to compare my F to Skunk's K motor. This is not a fair comparison, to say the least. Why not compare my gasoline powerd F to a gasoline powered drag K (oops, there are none), or imagine our powerplant with the resources of the top K motor.
Bottom line is that I am amazed, myself, to the power attained with our F motor, despite barely scratching the surface, no use of exotic fuels, and the simplicity of our set up (carbs and an msd 6). I am also a "one man" building/tuning team. It pays off to do research, than just follow the herd and hence claim superiority!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slimm-rw- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is a DOHC D-series........so yes, you can find a DOHC head for your motor, but it won't be VTEC.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nor will it even bolt up
nor will it even bolt up
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Bottom line is that I am amazed, myself, to the power attained with our F motor, despite barely scratching the surface, no use of exotic fuels, and the simplicity of our set up (carbs and an msd 6). I am also a "one man" building/tuning team. It pays off to do research, than just follow the herd and hence claim superiority!</TD></TR></TABLE>
As are all of your supporters 'Bisi, Amazed! Now if you'd stop trying to be different and stand out from the crowd you could have a fast car already.
j/k
I can't imagine what you could achieve provided limitless resources at your disposal, it would be frightening!
Jess
Bottom line is that I am amazed, myself, to the power attained with our F motor, despite barely scratching the surface, no use of exotic fuels, and the simplicity of our set up (carbs and an msd 6). I am also a "one man" building/tuning team. It pays off to do research, than just follow the herd and hence claim superiority!</TD></TR></TABLE>
As are all of your supporters 'Bisi, Amazed! Now if you'd stop trying to be different and stand out from the crowd you could have a fast car already.
j/kI can't imagine what you could achieve provided limitless resources at your disposal, it would be frightening!
Jess
Just buy a ZC, but explore the possibilities of the SOHC. Our current rally car uses one, and that car will tow a boat it has so much grunt.
but correct me if im wrong the b series dohc has more ponys than the d series? i mean your not going to be bragging to the guy some guy with a b18c you just lost to with your d16y8 hey man you may have beat me but damn my sohc sure does push a lot of air sorry i dont think so but i mean if you want the air flow put it to good use and scare some birds or sumthing
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by opkjoblacsh »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but correct me if im wrong the b series dohc has more ponys than the d series? i mean your not going to be bragging to the guy some guy with a b18c you just lost to with your d16y8 hey man you may have beat me but damn my sohc sure does push a lot of air sorry i dont think so but i mean if you want the air flow put it to good use and scare some birds or sumthing</TD></TR></TABLE>
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a stock b18c makes more power then a stock sohc. True.
but nobody was talking about a stock B vs a stock D.
that and, nobody is arguing that any series of honda motor whether it is A,B,D,F,H is any better then the other, they are mainly trying to justify using an sohc head/motor in a scene where most gravitate toward a DOHC. and they have.
but nobody was talking about a stock B vs a stock D.
that and, nobody is arguing that any series of honda motor whether it is A,B,D,F,H is any better then the other, they are mainly trying to justify using an sohc head/motor in a scene where most gravitate toward a DOHC. and they have.
Quote, originally posted by Slimm-rw- »
There is a DOHC D-series........so yes, you can find a DOHC head for your motor, but it won't be VTEC.
nor will it even bolt up
the ZC is d-series, have you tried to bolt it up, or are you jsut saying that? I've heard that it will....what's stopping it?




